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iPhone and watches and wallpapers, oh my

Today on the flagship podcast of the Action Button: 03:34 - The Verge's David Pierce chats with Allison Johnson and Dan Seifert about their reviews of the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro. 41:02 - Victoria Song joins the show to talk about her review of the Apple Watch Series 9 and Apple Watch Ultra

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Executive Summary: The episode centers on Apple’s 2023 product cycle: iPhone 15/15 Pro, Apple Watch Series 9/Ultra 2, and iOS 17/watchOS 10. Hosts argue the devices are solid rather than revolutionary, but meaningful upgrades for many buyers—especially due to USB-C, improved cameras, lighter hardware, and new interaction features. The second half explores how widgets, wallpapers, and icon packs turn iPhones into personalized devices.

Main Topics: iPhone 15 and 15 Plus review (Priority: 5/5): Dan Siefert says the standard iPhone 15 models are excellent but not especially exciting for enthusiasts; they matter most to people upgrading from older iPhones. Key gains include Dynamic Island, better cameras, USB-C, improved ergonomics, and strong battery life on the Plus. iPhone 15 Pro and Pro Max review (Priority: 5/5): Allison Johnson frames the Pro models as the more interesting annual platform for Apple’s new ideas, highlighting titanium construction, lighter weight, the Action Button, USB-C, and the 5x telephoto lens on the Pro Max. USB-C opens the iPhone more than expected (Priority: 5/5): The hosts are surprised by how broadly the USB-C port works with accessories like Ethernet, SD cards, external storage, displays, and even reverse charging between devices. They treat it as a rare Apple move toward real openness. Apple Watch Series 9, Ultra 2, and watchOS 10 (Priority: 5/5): Victoria Song argues the watch software story matters more than the hardware. The S9 chip enables double tap and on-device Siri, while watchOS 10’s widget-centric redesign changes how the watch is used. Widgets as the new center of Apple UX (Priority: 4/5): David Smith explains how widgets, live activities, and interactive widgets fit into a hierarchy based on how dynamic the information is. Apple is pushing widgets across iPhone, Watch, Mac, and iPad as glanceable, low-overhead interfaces. Phone personalization through wallpapers and icon packs (Priority: 4/5): The final segment explores why people spend real effort customizing wallpapers, icons, and layouts. Creator Isaac Mazna describes making and selling wallpapers/icon packs as a way to make the phone feel like personal art and a better reflection of style.

Key Arguments: The iPhone 15 is a worthwhile upgrade over the iPhone 14 because USB-C, Dynamic Island, improved cameras, and better battery/feel justify the extra $100. The 15 and 15 Plus are most compelling for owners of older iPhones (roughly 11/12 and earlier), not year-over-year upgraders. The Pro models are the only place where Apple is still introducing the most interesting new phone ideas; that’s where enthusiasts will gravitate. Titanium and softer chassis changes make the new phones materially nicer to hold, especially the lighter Pro Max. USB-C on the iPhone is unexpectedly permissive and practical, enabling real accessory use beyond charging. Apple Watch hardware is incremental, but the S9 chip enables meaningful software improvements like double tap and offline Siri. Double tap is promising but still limited; it’s more of a foundation for future interaction changes than a must-have feature now. Apple’s widget strategy favors performance and battery life by using snapshots and controlled refreshes instead of fully running mini-apps. Personalization matters because the phone is something people look at constantly; wallpapers, widgets, and icons can affect mood and identity. Custom icons and wallpapers work best when they match a coherent visual style and reduce clutter, not when they mimic random app-by-app aesthetics.

Data Points: iPhone 15 price floor: $800 - Dan notes even the less expensive iPhone 15 starts at $800, putting it in premium-phone territory. iPhone 15 Plus price: $900 - Used in the comparison of whether to buy the Plus or step up to a Pro Max. Pro Max price gap: $300 difference - Dan says the Pro Max now sits $300 above the Plus, versus the smaller gap in prior years. iPhone 15/Plus storage base: 128GB - Dan notes the new base storage is 128GB, doubling the old 64GB entry point. Battery life: ~35% remaining after 8–9 hours screen time - Dan reports the iPhone 15 Plus still had about 35% battery after a long travel day. USB-C reverse charging wattage: 4.5 watts - Dan says iPhone-to-iPhone charging works but at slow wattage, slower than slow wireless charging. Display out: 4K60 DisplayPort support - Dan says the iPhone 15 Pro can output video over USB-C at 4K60 via DisplayPort. Camera default resolution: 24 megapixels - The new default photo mode on iPhone 15 Pro models uses 24MP images. Full-resolution mode: 48 megapixels - Dan says shooting at full 48MP roughly doubles file size versus 24MP with limited added detail. iPhone 15 Plus vs 13 Pro weight: 15 Plus is lighter - Dan compares his iPhone 13 Pro to the 15 Plus and notes the larger Plus feels lighter. Apple Watch CPU gain: 30% faster CPU - Victoria cites Apple’s S9 chip performance improvement in the new watches. Apple Watch neural engine: 4-core - Used to power double tap and smarter on-device Siri. Siri accuracy improvement: 25% more accurate dictation - Victoria mentions Apple’s claim for dictation improvements on the new watch. Apple iCloud storage: up to 12TB - Dan jokes Apple would love to sell users up to 12TB of iCloud storage. iPhone 14 Plus vs Pro Max gap (prior year): $200 - Dan contrasts last year’s pricing with this year’s larger premium gap.

Pivotal Quotes: "Apple released a turd of a device." — Dan Siefert: A joking opening to his verdict on the iPhone 15/15 Plus before immediately clarifying they are good devices. "The battery life that I’m really excited about on the Plus is a horrific travel day ... I still had like 35% battery left on it." — Dan Siefert: Dan’s evidence that the iPhone 15 Plus delivers the big-battery promise. "The software this year is significantly more interesting than the hardware this year." — Victoria Song: Her summary thesis on the Apple Watch Series 9 and Ultra 2.

Implications: Apple’s 2023 lineup is less about shock-and-awe hardware and more about usability, ergonomics, and customization. Buyers get a more open iPhone, a more watch-like Watch, and a stronger sense that personal style and workflow will shape device choice.

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The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives – and which ones you should bring into yours.

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