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iPhone chips, Scorpio specs, and RIP NES Classic

This week on Vergecast, Chris Plante is in town! Nilay, Dieter, and Paul bring him in to discuss a few things that confused us all throughout the week — Apple and Qualcomm suing each other, how the FCC may kill net neutrality, and Nintendo discontinuing the NES Classic. There’s a lot more in between

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Executive Summary: This Vergecast episode covers three major tech battlegrounds: net neutrality policy, the sprawling Apple-Qualcomm patent war, and Microsoft/Nintendo hardware strategy. The hosts argue that Ajit Pai’s proposed net neutrality replacement is a weak, unrealistic substitute for law; unpack the absurdly complex modem and licensing disputes between Apple and Qualcomm; and assess Microsoft’s move toward Xbox as a Windows-like platform, while Nintendo’s Switch success is paired with baffling NES Classic and accessory decisions.

Main Topics: Net neutrality and Ajit Pai’s plan (Priority: 5/5): The conversation centers on FCC chair Ajit Pai’s push to dismantle net neutrality rules and replace them with ISP promises in terms of service, which the hosts view as unrealistic and a regulatory end-run. Apple vs. Qualcomm patent and licensing war (Priority: 5/5): A deep dive into the multi-layered litigation involving Apple, Qualcomm, and the FTC, including modem performance caps, patent exhaustion, FRAND licensing, and accusations of extortion and double-dipping. Microsoft’s Xbox/Windows strategy (Priority: 4/5): The hosts discuss Project Scorpio/Xbox and Microsoft’s long-term effort to turn Xbox into a broader platform that bridges gaming, Windows apps, and cloud-centric computing. Nintendo Switch momentum and NES Classic confusion (Priority: 4/5): Nintendo’s Switch is described as a big hit, but the company’s choice to discontinue the still-sought-after NES Classic and release AA-battery Joy-Con packs is treated as classic Nintendo unpredictability. The economics of platform lock-in and standards (Priority: 3/5): Across the policy and hardware discussions, the hosts repeatedly return to the tension between open standards, private terms of service, market power, and who gets to control access. Ad reads and show housekeeping (Priority: 2/5): Mid-show sponsorships and end-of-episode promos for Verge podcasts and Extras content round out the episode, along with listener-facing updates about upcoming experiments and Walt Mossberg’s retirement.

Key Arguments: Net neutrality cannot be protected by vague ISP promises because most users do not read or enforce terms of service, and the plan assumes a level of competition that does not exist in broadband markets. Pai’s proposal is described as an end-around: remove rules from law and relocate them into private contracts that most consumers cannot negotiate. The Apple-Qualcomm dispute is not a simple patent case; it is a tangled fight over standards, licensing, contract terms, modem supply, and market leverage. Qualcomm’s business model depends on collecting royalties in ways Apple calls double-dipping, including licensing to Foxconn and pricing fees based on the phone’s final sale price. Apple and Qualcomm are both making huge profits, but are fighting over how the money gets divided and who controls the supply chain. Microsoft appears to be shifting from a traditional console battle to a broader platform strategy where Xbox becomes a computer-like ecosystem tied to Windows, the Store, and cloud services. Nintendo’s strongest hardware move is undermined by erratic business decisions: the Switch is hard to find, the NES Classic is being discontinued, and the accessory strategy seems oddly focused on controller batteries.

Data Points: Net neutrality core asks: 4 - The Internet Association’s reduced demands: no paid prioritization, no blocking, FCC oversight, and one additional safeguard summarized by the hosts as a capitulation. Android/Chromebooks effect on PC market: Growth attributed to Chromebooks - Microsoft discussion notes that the PC market grew, depending on how you measure, because of Chromebooks. Qualcomm arbitration payment to BlackBerry: $880 million - Mentioned as a separate settlement that suggests Qualcomm’s royalty fights are expensive and recurring. Qualcomm fee comparison: Less than a plastic iPhone case per phone - The hosts cite Qualcomm’s own claim that its per-phone fees are below the price of a plastic case. Qualcomm modem performance: Capped by Apple software - Apple reportedly limited Qualcomm modem performance so it matched Intel modem speeds in iPhone 7 variants. OLED monitor price: $3,500 - Dell’s 30-inch 4K OLED monitor is discussed as a high-end niche product with mixed appeal. Xbox/console timing: E3 reveal planned - Microsoft plans to fully show Project Scorpio at E3 after releasing specs and dev kit details. Joy-Con battery pack lifespan: 20 hours - Nintendo’s AA-battery accessory for detached Switch controllers is said to last about 20 hours. Nintendo Classic availability: Last shipments in April - Nintendo says territories will receive the final shipments of NES Classic Edition systems in April.

Pivotal Quotes: "“The fundamental question that the head of the FCC is asking America is do you think there should be laws or should we all just make promises to each other and assume it will be fine.”" — Nilay Patel: Summarizing the net neutrality debate and criticizing Pai’s reliance on private promises instead of enforceable rules. "“scheme of relentless extortion”" — Apple (quoted by Nilay Patel): Apple’s characterization of Qualcomm’s business model in its patent filing. "“Nintendo doesn’t want your money. It wants your soul.”" — Nick Statt headline referenced by Nilay Patel: Used at the end of the Nintendo segment to describe the company’s frustrating but powerful grip on fans.

Implications: Listeners are left with a picture of tech markets shaped by policy fights, standards battles, and platform lock-in. Broadband, gaming, and mobile hardware all hinge on who controls rules, ecosystems, and supply chains.

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The Vergecast is the flagship podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, hosts Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s most important technology news. And every Tuesday, David leads a selection of The Verge’s expert staffers in an exploration of how gadgets and software affect our lives – and which ones you should bring into yours.

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