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Is Inflation The Fed’s Fault? + Uber Leaks

With inflation unfettered, Luigi and Bethany sit down with economist Ricardo Reis to discuss the Federal Reserve’s role. Contrary to our hosts’ views, Reis argues that while the Fed has made mistakes, they are largely understandable. Together, they chart why it took so long to pivot policies, how ce

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Executive Summary: The episode examines whether the Fed mishandled the inflation surge, with Ricardo Reis arguing many errors were understandable but still real: policy was too loose too long, supply shocks were misread, and recency bias shaped decisions. The discussion broadens to QE’s fiscal effects, political and groupthink pressures, and a later segment on how Uber’s access to data and political ties can distort research and public understanding.

Main Topics: Fed’s response to inflation (Priority: 5/5): The hosts debate whether the Federal Reserve was simply unlucky or systematically too slow to react to the post-pandemic inflation surge. Reis defends the Fed as making defensible but ultimately mistaken calls on rate hikes and supply shocks. Political pressure, recency bias, and groupthink at the Fed (Priority: 5/5): The conversation explores whether central bankers were influenced by political incentives, social-media pressure, reappointment concerns, and a post-financial-crisis mindset that made them overweight unemployment and underweight inflation risks. Asset prices, QE, and the Fed’s balance sheet (Priority: 4/5): Reis and the hosts discuss whether quantitative easing distorted asset markets, encouraged housing speculation, and created fiscal side effects by shifting government debt onto the Fed’s balance sheet. Inflation target credibility and the meaning of 2% (Priority: 4/5): Reis argues there is nothing magical about 2% versus 3% or 4%, but once a central bank commits to 2%, failing to deliver damages credibility and households’ expectations. Monetary policy, private returns, and the specialness of government debt (Priority: 4/5): The episode explains Reis’s claim that low government bond yields do not mean the whole economy’s returns are low; rather, QE and safe-asset scarcity can redistribute wealth and lower returns mainly for bond-heavy middle-class savers. Uber files, access, and compromised research incentives (Priority: 3/5): In the second half, the hosts discuss how corporate control of data, political lobbying, and elite access can shape academic research and public narratives, using Uber as the central example.

Key Arguments: Reis argues the Fed made three main errors: it stayed too loose after the post-2020 rebound, misread supply bottlenecks as temporary, and “saw through” the energy shock when expectations were already becoming unanchored. Luigi Zingales argues the pattern of mistakes points to bias rather than luck, and that political incentives—especially around Powell’s reappointment—may have delayed tightening. Reis agrees the Fed was behind the curve, but says the pattern is better explained by recency bias, prior experience with low inflation, and a mistaken theoretical lens than by explicit political capture. The Fed’s concern for markets and sequencing QE/QT/rate hikes likely slowed policy in 2021, but Reis says the current Fed is no longer overly afraid of disrupting markets. Reis contends that while QE has clear fiscal consequences, the bigger risk is not higher inflation per se but failing to respond, which can create entrenched high-inflation regimes and sovereign-debt stress. He argues that a higher inflation target could be discussed in a structured way, but the central bank cannot break a 2% promise without undermining trust with workers, savers, and borrowers. On Uber, the speakers argue that access to data and elite political networks can create research that looks scientific while serving corporate PR goals and limiting scrutiny of harmful outcomes. Bethany McLean emphasizes that corporate wrongdoing can have lasting causal effects: even if leadership changes, today’s success may still rest partly on earlier misconduct.

Data Points: U.S. inflation, January 2021: 1.4% - Zingales cites this as evidence inflation initially looked below target before later surging. U.S. inflation, December 2021: 7% - Used to argue inflation had already accelerated before the war narrative. Current U.S. inflation mentioned in episode: 9% - Zingales and Reis discuss the urgency of restoring credibility. Switzerland inflation: 3.4% - Cited as a comparison showing other economies faced the same shocks but with less inflation. Brazil central bank rate hikes timing: April last year - Reis cites Brazil as having tightened earlier than the Fed. QE-related transfer estimate: $300 billion - Mentioned in relation to lower yields on investment-grade bonds and wealth transfers. Housing-market timing concern: Lagging CPI effect - McLean notes housing and rent inflation may not yet have fully filtered into CPI. Fed policy delay: About 6-9 months - Reis describes the Fed as behind the curve before pivoting in 2022.

Pivotal Quotes: "we now understand better how little we understand about inflation" — Jay Powell: Referenced at the start as a prompt for discussing the Fed’s uncertainty and mistakes. "inflation is always and ever a political phenomenon" — Luigi Zingales: Zingales uses this to argue that central-bank errors reflect political pressure and incentives, not just economics. "the central bankers in the last 20 years have become a little accustomed to the cushy position of being seen as the saviors of the world" — Ricardo Reis: Reis explains how central-bank status and praise may have reduced willingness to be unpopular when inflation rose.

Implications: The episode suggests inflation control depends on more than models: it requires institutional independence, willingness to be unpopular, and humility about QE and target-setting. For listeners, it warns that asset bubbles, political pressure, and data access can quietly shape outcomes.

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