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Judging Sam: Ellison Testimony Wraps Up

Caroline Ellison, former co-CEO of Alameda Research and Sam Bankman-Fried’s ex-girlfriend, spent 3 days on the stand this week. Ellison recently pled guilty to financial fraud, and is cooperating with the prosecution. In this episode Lidia Jean Kott discusses Caroline’s testimony with Jacob Goldstei

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Michael Lewis HostLydia Jean Cott Guest

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: Court reporter Lydia Jean Cott updates host Jacob Goldstein on Caroline Ellison’s testimony in Sam Bankman-Fried’s trial. Ellison described choosing a misleading balance sheet after consulting Bankman-Fried, Alameda’s use of FTX customer funds, and a Chinese-official bribery scheme. Her account also covered Bankman-Fried’s utilitarian outlook and their relationship. The defense’s cross-examination seemed ineffective to the reporters, while a secret recording appeared to corroborate Ellison’s claims.

Main Topics: Alameda’s balance sheets and lender disclosures: Ellison testified that she prepared an accurate balance sheet and seven alternatives for Genesis, a lender, and that Bankman-Fried reviewed them and chose version seven. It categorized Alameda’s debt to FTX as long-term loans, although FTX customers could withdraw funds at any time. Alleged Chinese-official bribe: Ellison described efforts to access Alameda funds frozen in China and said executives decided to bribe a Chinese government official. The episode is not a charge in this trial, but prosecutors cited it as evidence of her closeness to and trust relationship with Bankman-Fried. Utilitarianism and Ellison’s relationship with Bankman-Fried: Ellison described Bankman-Fried as a utilitarian focused on maximizing good, with ordinary rules such as not lying or stealing treated as less central. She said working at Alameda changed what she was willing to do, including preparing a misleading balance sheet. Emotional testimony and the defense cross-examination: Ellison cried while describing FTX’s collapse as the worst week of her life, while also feeling relief that she could stop lying and accept responsibility. Cott said the defense’s cross-examination was halting and did not meaningfully undermine Ellison’s testimony. Secret recording of Alameda staff meeting: A recording from an Alameda meeting after FTX’s collapse captured Ellison telling staff that customer funds had been used, investments were illiquid, and customers could not be repaid. She named Bankman-Fried and other executives as aware of the arrangement and reportedly said “Sam, I guess” when asked who authorized it.

Key Arguments: The balance-sheet episode could support the prosecution’s claim that Bankman-Fried knew Alameda was using FTX customer funds: Ellison testified that he saw the accurate version and the alternatives before directing her to use the version that presented the debt as long-term. The recording may corroborate Ellison’s in-court account because it was made before she became a cooperating witness or faced charges, and captures her identifying Bankman-Fried as having authorized the commingling. Prosecutors used the Chinese-bribe account not as a separate charge in this trial, but to show that Ellison was a trusted confidante and that she acted at Bankman-Fried’s direction. Cott’s assessment was that the prosecution’s questioning was compelling and the defense cross-examination did not substantially alter the picture presented by Ellison’s testimony.

Data Points: Alternative balance sheets prepared: 7 - Ellison reportedly prepared seven alternative presentations in addition to an accurate balance sheet; version seven was sent to Genesis. Date of lender requests and market downturn: June 2022 - Ellison testified that lenders sought repayment and Genesis requested a balance sheet during the crypto-market downturn. Recording date: November 2022 - The audio clips came from an Alameda staff meeting after FTX had imploded. Recorder’s time at Alameda: 3 days - The engineer testified that the person who secretly recorded the staff meeting had been hired just three days earlier. Episode recording date: October 12 - Goldstein said the episode was being recorded on the evening of October 12; the year was not specified in that statement.

Pivotal Quotes: "It was the worst week of my life." — Caroline Ellison: Her description of the week FTX collapsed, as recounted by Cott. "Sam, I guess." — Caroline Ellison: Her reported response on the recording when someone asked who authorized the commingling of funds. "I find it compelling, and I do think it played as compelling in court." — Lydia Jean Cott: Cott’s assessment of the testimony about Bankman-Fried selecting the misleading balance sheet.

Implications: If credited, Ellison’s testimony and the recording could strengthen the prosecution’s case that Bankman-Fried knew about and directed the use of FTX customer funds. The episode also illustrates how liquidity risk and misleading financial disclosures can compound during a market crisis.

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Michael Lewis’s best-selling book The Big Short is now 15 years old. The Oscar-winning movie based on it came out a decade ago. To mark the occasion, Lewis has narrated a new audiobook of The Big Short. Here on his podcast, he and co-host Lidia Jean Kott are thinking about the legacy of the book, the movie, and the financial crisis of 2008. Michael catches up with the director of the movie, Adam McKay, as well as some of the real-life characters depicted by the likes of Ryan Gosling, Steve Carell and Jeremy Strong. He also calls up journalists, economists, and historians to make sense of the 2008 financial crisis and to understand how it still affects the world today.

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