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Listen Again - Baratunde Thurston: How To Citizen

Original broadcast date: December 4, 2020. Last year's election saw historic voter turnout. But in a divided democracy, how else can we commit to our civic duties? This hour, Baratunde Thurston joins Manoush with ideas on how to citizen. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection

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NPR ([email protected]) HostValerie Kaur GuestEric Liu Guest

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: This episode frames citizenship as an active, ongoing practice rather than a legal status. Through Baratunde Thurston’s commentary on TED talks by Valerie Kaur, Eric Liu, Jamila Rakib, and Girl Trek, it argues that love, civic participation, nonviolent strategy, walking, and storytelling are practical tools for sustaining democracy, resisting harm, and rebuilding community.

Main Topics: Citizenship as a verb (Priority: 5/5): Baratunde Thurston defines 'to citizen' as an active commitment to community, democracy, and shared responsibility, not passive identity or political labeling. Revolutionary love and humanizing opponents (Priority: 5/5): Valerie Kaur’s framework of self-love, loving others, and tending opponents' wounds is presented as a spiritual and civic ethic for coexistence. Democracy requires practice, not blind faith (Priority: 5/5): Eric Liu argues democracy survives only if people actively invest in it through civic rituals, shared questions, and everyday responsibility. Nonviolent struggle as a strategic discipline (Priority: 4/5): Jamila Rakib reframes nonviolence as sophisticated power-building that includes strikes, boycotts, media, and institutional disruption beyond street protest. Collective movement as health and civic action (Priority: 4/5): Girl Trek’s walking groups are described as both health intervention and communal resistance, especially for Black women facing systemic neglect. Storytelling, trauma, and systems change (Priority: 4/5): The episode connects personal and historical trauma to public systems, arguing that changing actions and narratives can change institutions and social outcomes.

Key Arguments: Citizenship should be understood as an ethic of participation and mutual obligation, not just voting or formal membership. Valerie Kaur’s 'revolutionary love' is practical, not sentimental: self-love, seeing strangers as kin, and humanizing opponents can support coexistence. Calling someone an 'opponent' instead of an 'enemy' leaves room for relationship, change, and continued civic engagement. Democracy is fragile because it depends on human belief and active maintenance; blind faith and disengagement weaken it. Civic life is built through repeated social practices that help people see one another and connect personal behavior to collective outcomes. Nonviolent resistance is not simply protest; it is a disciplined strategy using multiple methods to shift power and undermine oppressive systems. Public protest is important for visibility and momentum, but sustained change requires organizing, strategy, and alternative forms of action. Walking together in community can be a political and healing act, especially when it restores agency over bodies shaped by systemic harm. Black women’s health outcomes reflect structural neglect, and movement-based community organizing can be both symbolic and materially important. Systems are collective stories people agree to live by, so changing behavior, narratives, and institutions are linked forms of civic action.

Data Points: TED Radio Hour episode theme: How to Citizen - The episode centers on Baratunde Thurston’s concept of turning citizenship into an active verb. Number of nonviolent action methods: 198 - Jamila Rakib cites Gene Sharp’s classification of methods of nonviolent action. Los Angeles city budget spent on police: 54% - Baratunde mentions this as an example of how budget storytelling reveals power and priorities. Black women dying from preventable disease each day: 137 per day - Girl Trek frames Black women’s health as a crisis of systemic neglect. Frequency of Black women deaths from preventable disease: Every 11 minutes - Used to emphasize the urgency of the health crisis discussed in the Girl Trek segment. Black women over a healthy weight: 82% - Girl Trek cites this statistic while describing the scale of the health challenge. Black women classified as obese: 53% - Part of the health data motivating Girl Trek’s walking-based organizing. Girl Trek voter registration example: 60,000 voters - Referenced through Ella Baker/Septima Clark/Fannie Lou Hamer lineage as a model of organizing power. Eric Liu description of the U.S.: 52nd freest nation on earth - Opening line from Liu’s talk highlighting democratic fragility and global ranking decline. Historical moment referenced: 2016 election; post-9/11; 2020 protests; 2020 election - These events frame the discussion of racism, civic crisis, and renewed participation.

Pivotal Quotes: "What if the darkness that we're feeling is not the darkness of the tomb? But the darkness of the womb?" — Valerie Kaur: Used by Baratunde to describe the hopeful, generative spirit of revolutionary love after the 2016 election. "society becomes how you behave" — Eric Liu: A concise summary of Liu’s argument that democracy is built through everyday civic conduct. "I'm asking us to change the action, which changes the story, which changes the system." — Baratunde Thurston: From his closing reflection on how individual and collective behavior can transform institutions.

Implications: Listeners are urged to treat democracy as daily work: build relationships, organize strategically, protect vulnerable communities, and use nonviolence, love, and shared action to counter division and systemic harm.

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