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MacroVoices #232 Vincent Deluard: The Nuclear Winter of the 60/40 Portfolio

MacroVoices Erik Townsend and Patrick Ceresna welcome Vincent Deluard to the show to discuss the shortcomings of 60/40 portfolio, why inflation still hasn’t happened, and if the U.S. dollar is facing the beginning of its demise and more. Link: https://bit.ly/3iDyBAz

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Hedge Fund Manager Erik Townsend ([email protected]) HostVincent Deluard Guest

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Executive Summary: Macro Voices episode 232 centered on a macro regime shift: Eric Townsend and guest Vincent Deluard argued that central-bank/fiscal support is driving equities and weakening the dollar, while the classic 60/40 portfolio may be entering a “nuclear winter” of low or negative real returns. They also discussed the inflation setup, Europe’s relative opportunity, rising social unrest from generational wealth gaps, gold’s role as a hedge, and how gold/silver options can be used to manage risk and capture upside.

Main Topics: The 60/40 portfolio is structurally compromised (Priority: 5/5): Deluard argued that the long-standing bond/equity diversification model is unlikely to deliver historic returns going forward because starting valuations and bond yields are too low for bonds to provide meaningful ballast or income. Inflation regime shift and its drivers (Priority: 5/5): He laid out six “horsemen of inflation,” including asset bubbles, central-bank liquidity, cost shocks from COVID/protectionism, excessive debt, price manipulation, and generational inequality, arguing these forces are converging now. Weak dollar and international asset rotation (Priority: 4/5): The discussion framed the dollar’s decline as potentially secular rather than merely cyclical, with implications for emerging markets and non-U.S. assets that have been suppressed by dollar strength. Europe as a short-term value opportunity (Priority: 3/5): Deluard was cautiously constructive on Europe, especially if a vaccine/reopening scenario materializes, citing fiscal integration momentum and cheaper cyclical assets relative to the U.S. Generational wealth gap and political unrest (Priority: 5/5): He linked social unrest to a widening divide between young and old households, worsened by asset inflation, housing/education/healthcare costs, and a system that benefits asset owners over wage earners. Gold, silver, and precious metals strategies (Priority: 4/5): Gold was framed as a long-term beneficiary of inflation, negative real yields, and declining trust in fiat assets. Patrick’s post-game segment showed how gold/silver options can create asymmetric risk/reward and hedges. Treasury yields and the zero-bound question (Priority: 4/5): Eric highlighted the macro uncertainty around whether ultra-low yields are a temporary pause or the start of a secular bond bear market, with major implications for asset allocation.

Key Arguments: A 60/40 portfolio relies on bonds producing 4%-5% and equities around 10%-11%; with rates near zero, that assumption is no longer credible. If inflation broadens, asset prices may need to reprice lower to restore forward returns, creating a messy transition for pensions, robo-advisors, and risk-parity strategies. The U.S. dollar is likely in a secular bear phase, but not necessarily an immediate collapse of reserve-currency status; weaker dollar dynamics should support international and emerging-market assets. Inflation has been muted because post-2008 monetary easing was offset by fiscal tightening and bank deleveraging; today fiscal monetization and direct transfers make inflation more likely. The young face a much worse inflation experience than the old because housing, healthcare, and education have risen much faster than the costs borne by retirees. Gold is attractive not because it pays income, but because real yields are negative, bond yields are near zero, and many traditional return sources are impaired. Gold and silver options are unusually attractive because their volatility skew can make downside hedges cheaper and upside call structures more favorable than in equities. Europe could outperform if reopening continues and fiscal integration advances, but it remains highly vulnerable to a renewed virus wave. Latin American equities may be a leveraged play on a weak dollar and inflation because many economies earn in commodities and borrow in dollars.

Data Points: Macro Voices episode: 232 - Episode identifier for the recorded show Recording date: August 13, 2020 - Date noted in the introduction 10-year real return for 60/40: close to 10% annually - Deluard said the portfolio’s recent decade benefited from low inflation Long-run average real return for 60/40: about 8%-9% - Historical 10-year trading return referenced by Deluard Median U.S. public pension assumption: 7.25% per year - Used to illustrate unrealistic return expectations 10-year Treasury yield: around 50-60 bps - Context for the low-rate regime and bond return limitations Equity valuation: P/E close to 30 - Used to estimate an earnings yield of roughly 4% Junk bond yields: around 5% - Part of the return stack Deluard said cannot average to 7.25% Investment-grade yields: close to nothing - Illustrates limited income from high-quality bonds U.S. 10-year TIPS yield: negative 60 bps - Example of deeply negative real yields supportive of gold U.S. oil production: 10.7 million barrels/day - Weekly EIA-style update cited by Eric, down 300,000 bpd Weekly U.S. oil production change: down 300,000 barrels/day - Potential early sign of a supply-driven oil breakout Crude inventory change: down 4.5 million barrels - Weekly crude draw SPR change: down 2.2 million barrels - Strategic Petroleum Reserve draw Cushing inventory change: up 1.3 million barrels - Storage reversal noted in the crude market Gasoline inventory change: down 722,000 barrels - Weekly gasoline draw Distillates inventory change: down 2.3 million barrels - Weekly distillate draw Gold pullback: nearly $100 intraday - Gold’s sharp correction during the episode’s recording window SLV option strike area: $30 strike - Dealer gamma exposure was said to intensify near this level Example options trade: $26-$30 bull call spread for about $1 - Patrick illustrated asymmetric upside in silver options GLD/SLV option tenor example: 36 days to Sept. 18 expiry - Used in the bull spread example

Pivotal Quotes: "The 60-40 portfolio is headed for a nuclear winter." — Eric Townsend (introducing Vincent Deluard): Episode framing of Deluard’s core thesis on portfolio construction "I think inflation has been a question that most strategists and investment managers have preferred to avoid or not think about because it's uncomfortable." — Vincent Deluard: Explaining why inflation calls have been resisted for years "As long as you have that, gold is a better alternative and kits can keep going." — Vincent Deluard: On negative real yields and why gold remains attractive

Implications: Listeners should expect lower returns from traditional balanced portfolios, greater inflation risk, and ongoing weakness in the dollar. Gold, select non-U.S. assets, and disciplined options strategies may become more important tools for diversification and risk management.

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