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MacroVoices #241 Mike Alkin & Guy Keller: Uranium Special

MacroVoices Erik Townsend and guest co-host Kevin Muir welcome Mike Alkin & Guy Keller to the show to talk about the future of nuclear power industry, how Uranium market works and the investment opportunities in the Uranium market & more. Link: https://bit.ly/3k5i35H

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Executive Summary: Macro Voices episode 241 centered on two themes: market uncertainty around the 2020 U.S. election and a deep dive into the uranium/nuclear power investment thesis. The hosts argued that contested-election risk was driving volatility across assets, while uranium fundamentals looked increasingly bullish due to supply deficits, rising nuclear demand, and a growing acceptance of nuclear as part of the low-carbon future.

Main Topics: U.S. Election as the Dominant Macro Driver (Priority: 5/5): Eric Townsend argued that the election was overriding normal market signals, with contested outcomes and potential unrest creating volatility in equities, the dollar, gold, and bonds. Uranium Supply/Demand Imbalance (Priority: 5/5): Mike Alkin and Guy Keller described a structural uranium deficit, weak incentive prices, and contracting behavior that has not kept pace with demand, setting up a bullish medium-term setup. Nuclear Power’s Reputational Recovery (Priority: 4/5): The guests made the case that climate goals and reliability concerns are pushing environmentalists and policymakers toward accepting nuclear power again. New Reactor Buildout and Future Fuel Demand (Priority: 4/5): They emphasized that a global reactor construction cycle is underway, especially in China, which will add significant uranium demand over the next five years. Investment Vehicles and Market Structure (Priority: 4/5): The discussion covered uranium miners, physical uranium vehicles, ETFs like URNM, and physical trusts such as Yellow Cake and UPC, including discounts to NAV. Risks in Junior Mining and Fund Capacity (Priority: 3/5): The guests warned that the sector is small, promotional, illiquid, and operationally difficult, requiring specialist due diligence and disciplined position sizing.

Key Arguments: Markets are volatile because the U.S. election is the primary macro driver, and a contested result is viewed as highly likely. The U.S. dollar may remain range-bound until election clarity emerges; a disorderly outcome would likely be dollar-negative, while a clean sweep would be dollar-positive. Crude oil’s back-end time spreads were seen as more bullish than flat price, suggesting higher prices may be coming despite a narrow trading range. Gold is effectively waiting for the election outcome; a clean, accepted result would be bearish, while severe unrest would be bullish. Uranium fundamentals are improving because existing supply is insufficient at current prices and new production is not being incentivized. The uranium industry has shrunk dramatically in market cap, from roughly $150 billion to about $5 billion, making it capacity-constrained for large capital inflows. Nuclear power is increasingly viewed as necessary for climate goals because renewables alone cannot provide reliable baseload power at scale. The existing nuclear fleet plus reactors under construction imply a multi-year structural uranium deficit, even when state-owned production and secondary supply are included. Utilities are undercontracted relative to prior cycles, and uncovered demand plus a declining delivery waterfall could force higher spot and long-term prices. Physical uranium and physical proxies may offer attractive leverage, especially when they trade at discounts to net asset value.

Data Points: Macro Voices episode: 241 - Episode number of the podcast installment discussed Recording date: October 15, 2020 - When the episode was recorded Uranium industry market cap decline: from $150 billion to about $5 billion - Eric and guests cited the collapse in market capitalization over several years Current uranium spot price: about $30/lb - Mike Alkin discussed pricing relative to marginal production costs Marginal producer needed price: about $50/lb - Estimated price required for average marginal production to be profitable Uranium supply cut: 25% of world supply cut since end of 2016 - Described as a major reduction in productive capacity Structural deficit: over 30 million pounds per year - Estimated current deficit in the uranium market Potential future deficit: 40 to 50 million pounds per year - Projected if prices stay too low to incent new development Global annual demand: about 200 million pounds - Round-number estimate used in the discussion Last cycle uranium spot move: from $10 to $137 - Historical price spike in the prior uranium bull market Price required for all mines to come online: $70 to $75/lb - Estimate of the level needed to meet all demand with new supply Japan pre-Fukushima share of global nuclear power: 13% - Mike Alkin noted Japan’s importance before reactor shutdowns Japan reactors offline after Fukushima: 54 reactors - All reactors went offline over the following year or two Japan reactors currently operating: about 9 - Current number cited as still far below pre-Fukushima levels Global reactors under construction: over 50 - Evidence cited for a nuclear renaissance Construction value in process: half a trillion dollars - Value of nuclear construction activity underway globally Nuclear plant full-power days per year: almost 350 days - Compared with coal, gas, solar, and wind in the presentation Coal/natural gas full-power days per year: a little over 150 to 175 days - Used to highlight baseload reliability differences Solar full-power days per year: less than 100 days - Used to illustrate intermittency Wind full-power days per year: a little over 100 days - Used to illustrate intermittency Germany electricity cost increase: up four times - Mike cited Germany’s post-Fukushima energy transition Germany carbon output: neutral - Claimed outcome despite massive renewable spending China fuel demand from new reactors: 10 to 11 million pounds of uranium per year - Expected requirement for reactors under construction through 2025 Ex-China new reactor fuel demand: about 8 million pounds per year - Additional demand from reactors under construction outside China Initial fuel load for a new reactor: up to 3x normal requirement - When a reactor starts, initial loading requires extra uranium Physical uranium account setup: about $25,000 - Approximate cost mentioned for buying physical uranium through a converter account Physical uranium trust discount: about 20% discount to NAV - Yellow Cake and UPC were described as trading below net asset value Uranium utilities contracting rate in prior cycle: 120% to 150% of annual consumption - Heavy contracting behavior during the last bull market Recent contracting rate: 30% to 40% of annual consumption - Much lighter contracting in the current market Japanese nuclear output after Fukushima: still not back to pre-Fukushima; about 9 reactors online - Illustrated the long recovery timeline Closing level thresholds on U.S. dollar index: above 95 or below 92 - Eric used these as levels needed for technical confirmation

Pivotal Quotes: "I think it's all about the election. We're into the final weeks. The election is now the predominant force that's affecting the market." — Eric Townsend: Opening macro discussion on market volatility "The reality is, nuclear power is clean, safe and reliable. And science shows that if you want to achieve these climate goals over the next few decades, you can't get there just with renewables." — Mike Alkin: Core bullish thesis for nuclear power "Price is everything." — Mike Alkin: Summary of the uranium investment thesis and supply response

Implications: The episode frames uranium as an asymmetric long-term trade driven by underinvestment, contracting needs, and a nuclear revival. For macro investors, it suggests watching election outcomes and supply-demand inflection points, then positioning via miners or physical uranium proxies.

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