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MacroVoices #338 Brent Johnson: Why You Can’t Ignore The US Dollar

MacroVoices Erik Townsend and Patrick Ceresna welcome Santiago Capital founder Brent Johnson to the show to take a deep dive on the U.S. Dollar: Why it didn’t crash the way so many people predicted, why it’s been so strong, and why Brent says that strength is set to continue.https://bit.ly/3KAyBAR D

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Executive Summary: Macro Voices episode 338 centers on Brent Johnson’s bullish dollar thesis and the idea that a sovereign debt/currency crisis will show up first as dollar strength versus weaker fiat peers, not as outright dollar collapse. The discussion also covers crude oil’s technical reversal, the tightening physical oil market, gold’s uncertain near-term setup, and cross-asset implications for equities, commodities, and China.

Main Topics: Brent Johnson’s Dollar Milkshake Theory (Priority: 5/5): Johnson explains that the framework is about a coming sovereign debt and currency crisis in which the U.S. dollar outperforms other fiat currencies because all major central banks are debasing, but not equally. He argues the thesis is not 'validated' or 'invalidated' yet, but the current strong dollar is consistent with the setup. Relative vs Absolute Currency Value (Priority: 5/5): A major theme is that the dollar index reflects relative performance, not absolute purchasing power. Johnson stresses that investors should think in currency pairs and global funding dynamics, because a rising dollar can still coexist with inflation and asset inflation in nominal terms. Europe and Japan as Stress Points (Priority: 5/5): Johnson argues the euro and yen are already experiencing the type of breakdown many dollar bears expect for the U.S. The ECB and BOJ face severe constraints, with Europe under energy stress and Japan forced into bond-buying to suppress yields, weakening their currencies further. Oil Market Tightness and Reversal (Priority: 4/5): Patrick and Eric discuss crude oil’s sharp reversal after Saudi comments signaled that an Iran deal would likely require OPEC+ compensation cuts. Brent and the hosts frame the move as a possible bottoming process, supported by a very large inventory draw and strong physical market signals. Gold as a Long-Term Hedge, Not a Near-Term Trade (Priority: 4/5): Johnson remains constructive on gold over the long run but says it is not yet the market’s most compelling trade in dollar terms. He sees a key support zone around 1670-1690 and warns that a break could lead to deeper downside before a better buying opportunity emerges. Broader Macro Endgame: Dollar Strength, China, and Reset Risk (Priority: 4/5): Johnson links dollar strength to pressure on China, commodity flows, and global debt markets. He expects China may ultimately have to devalue the yuan, which could create another deflationary wave and intensify dollar strength until some form of system reset or coordination becomes necessary.

Key Arguments: The dollar milkshake theory is not simply a bullish-dollar call; it is a framework for a future sovereign debt and currency crisis. The dollar’s strength reflects relative weakness elsewhere, especially the euro and yen, not necessarily rising absolute purchasing power. Rising dollar strength can depress global asset prices and trigger dollar-funded balance sheet stress even when local fiat currencies are all being debased. The U.S. government may be tolerating or even encouraging dollar strength for geopolitical leverage against Europe, Russia, China, and other vulnerable economies. The euro and yen are already experiencing the kind of currency and sovereign stress that many investors wrongly expect to happen first to the dollar. Oil may have put in a near-term bottom after Saudi Arabia’s OPEC+ reaction to a potential Iran deal changed market sentiment. Gold remains an important portfolio asset, but in the near term it faces technical risk and may need to retest lower levels before resuming a durable bull run. China is squeezed by weak real estate, expensive imports, and currency pressure; a yuan devaluation could export deflation and further support the dollar. If sovereign bond markets lose confidence, capital may rotate into U.S. dollar assets and U.S. equities after an interim period of volatility. A digital reserve-currency solution is likely to emerge eventually, but Brent doubts a private cryptocurrency like Bitcoin will replace the state-based monetary system.

Data Points: Macro Voices episode: 338 - Episode identifier Recording date: August 25, 2022 - Episode production date SP 500 drawdown mentioned in intro: About 150 points off the top - Patrick on the late-summer pullback U.S. dollar index level: 109 - Repeatedly cited as major resistance/20-year highs Dollar index level a year earlier: 92 - Brent contrasts last year’s level with current strength U.S. dollar strength horizon: Potentially 2-6 years - Brent says the crescendo/cycle could take years WTI inventory draw: 11.4 million barrels - Weekly U.S. crude inventory change including SPR SPR drawdown: 8.1 million barrels - Part of the total 11.4 million barrel draw Headline U.S. crude inventory draw: 3.3 million barrels - Headline print after SPR adjustment Cushing crude build: 426,000 barrels - Weekly inventory detail Gasoline draw: 27,000 barrels - Weekly inventory detail Distillates draw: 661,000 barrels - Weekly inventory detail U.S. crude production: 12.0 million barrels/day - Down 100,000 barrels/day on the week Production change from peak: Down 200,000 barrels/day - Compared with a few weeks earlier Euro level referenced: 99 - Patrick on euro/dollar weakness Euro downside target discussed: 95 to high 80s - Brent and Patrick discuss possible further weakness Euro long-term target mentioned: 80 cents or lower - Brent’s bearish euro view Gold support zone: 1670 to 1690 - Brent’s key technical area Potential gold downside: 1500 to 1600 - If support breaks 10-year Treasury yield: About 3% - Brent notes yields are now positive again Macro Voices audience: Over 170,000 listeners - Sponsor/advertising segment Accredited investor audience: At least 40,000 listeners - Show promotional segment

Pivotal Quotes: "the dollar milkshake theory is not just the dollar going higher... the theory is that we are going to enter a sovereign debt and a sovereign currency crisis" — Brent Johnson: Defining his core macro framework "just because the dollar is going higher doesn't mean that you can't still have inflation" — Brent Johnson: Explaining relative currency weakness vs nominal inflation "everything that everybody is worried that will one day happen to the dollar is already happening right now today to the Euro and the yen" — Brent Johnson: Arguing the stress is already visible outside the U.S.

Implications: Listeners should watch relative currency moves, not just inflation headlines. A stronger dollar can pressure commodities, emerging markets, and global funding conditions, while creating opportunities in U.S. assets, energy, and eventually gold if the macro crisis deepens.

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