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MacroVoices #367 Luke Gromen: USD Update in the Wake of SVB Collapse

MacroVoices Erik Townsend welcomes Forest for the Trees founder Luke Gromen to the show to discuss how the US Dollar has fared in the wake of central bank divestitures and Luke’s outlook for the dollar and other markets in the wake of Silicon Valley Bank’s collapse after the biggest bank run in U.S.

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Hedge Fund Manager Erik Townsend ([email protected]) HostLuke Groman Guest

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: Macro Voices episode 367 centers on the Silicon Valley Bank collapse as a symptom of the Fed’s aggressive hiking cycle, its impact on treasury/banking market plumbing, and the likely end of tightening. Luke Groman argues inflation’s return and treasury-market stress will force a policy pivot, weakening the dollar over time and favoring gold, Bitcoin, commodities, and select equities.

Main Topics: Silicon Valley Bank collapse and bank run mechanics (Priority: 5/5): The episode explains SVB’s failure as a duration-mismatch problem amplified by uninsured deposits, concentrated depositor behavior, and rapid Fed hikes that crushed bond values and triggered a historic bank run. Fed policy, hikes, and the end of QT (Priority: 5/5): Both the interview and post-game debate whether the Fed can keep tightening after destabilizing banks; consensus leans toward a pause or pivot because further hikes risk broader financial-system damage. Treasury market stress and market plumbing (Priority: 5/5): Groman frames the real issue as deteriorating Treasury market functioning, with banks, the Fed, and Treasury all entangled in a supply-demand mismatch for government debt. Dollar regime, de-dollarization, and reserve-currency risk (Priority: 4/5): The discussion revisits Groman’s thesis that the post-1971 dollar system is being restructured, with foreign central banks, oil settlement shifts, and U.S. balance-sheet constraints all pressuring the reserve-currency model. Inflation reacceleration trade (Priority: 5/5): Groman argues the U.S. will re-enter a high-inflation regime akin to 'Argentina with U.S. characteristics,' making gold, Bitcoin, commodities, energy, and industrials attractive. Equity, bond, and volatility market reaction to banking stress (Priority: 4/5): The post-game explores whether the market will interpret a Fed pause as bullish or bearish, while highlighting steep moves in yields, falling volatility expectations, and relative resilience in equities. Geopolitics, war risk, and asset pricing (Priority: 3/5): Groman warns that heightened U.S.-China-Russia tensions are inflationary and not bond-friendly, with sovereign debt likely to underperform in any true conflict escalation.

Key Arguments: SVB failed primarily because aggressive rate hikes made its long-duration bond portfolio deeply impaired while depositors could earn much higher short-term yields elsewhere. The banking system was incentivized for years by regulation to hold Treasuries, so the problem reflects policy design, not just bank mismanagement. The Fed, Treasury, and banks all implicitly bet that inflation would not return; that shared assumption was wrong. The Fed is likely near the end of tightening because it risks losing control of the Treasury market and triggering more bank stress. If the Fed stops hiking, inflation is likely to reaccelerate, producing a broad 'inflation trade' in gold, Bitcoin, commodities, energy, and hard assets. De-dollarization can initially strengthen the dollar because small shifts in global settlement systems create dollar-liquidity pressure against a huge outstanding dollar debt base. A true geopolitical conflict would be inflationary and negative for sovereign bonds; war tends to push investors toward hard assets rather than duration. The current environment suggests the classic 60/40 portfolio may be less effective and should evolve toward a more flexible barbell with cash/short duration plus hard-asset exposure.

Data Points: S&P 500 weekly change: -1.8% - Macro scoreboard week over week as of March 15, 2023. NASDAQ weekly change: ~+1.0% - Equities showed resilience despite financial-sector stress. U.S. dollar index (DXY) weekly change: -0.9% to 104.7 - Dollar softened during the banking crisis and repricing of Fed policy. WTI crude (April contract) weekly change: -11.8% to 67.61 - Oil sold off sharply amid recession and banking-stress fears. Gold weekly change: +6.2% to 1,931 - Gold broke out on safe-haven demand and higher inflation/financial-stress expectations. Copper weekly change: -4.6% to 3.84 - Industrial metals weakened alongside growth concerns. U.S. 10-year Treasury yield: -54 bps to 3.45% - Bond market rallied strongly as investors priced a Fed pause/pivot. Silicon Valley Bank uninsured deposits: ~97% of deposits - Used to highlight the extent of depositor risk and the bailout’s moral hazard. Largest U.S. bank run: More than 2x any prior U.S. bank run - Described as occurring mostly in a single day. WTI intraday low mentioned: ~$66 - Nick and Eric discussed whether this marked a potential oil bottom. Expected move on SPX into March OpEx: ~70 points - Nick’s options-based volatility estimate for the S&P 500. SPX key levels: 3,800 support / 4,000 resistance - Technical and gamma-related levels highlighted in post-game. QQQ expected move into March OpEx: ~17 points - Used to frame near-term NASDAQ volatility. QQQ key levels: 290 support / 300 resistance / 305 gamma flip / 310 call wall - Post-game options positioning and technical map. VIX spike: To ~31 - Volatility rose but remained below prior crisis extremes. 2s10s spread move: From -110 bps to about -40 bps - Illustrated a sharp yield-curve steepener driven by collapsing front-end yields. Treasury Volatility Index: 140 - Luke cited this as nearing levels that suggest the Fed is losing control of the Treasury market. Potential inflation path discussed by Groman: 10%-20% CPI annually for 4-5 years - His earlier estimate for how much inflation would be needed to reduce debt burdens sustainably. Gold since pre-SVB bottom: Up roughly $100+ - Eric noted gold moved from around 1,812 to about 1,919/1,931.

Pivotal Quotes: "the bet that sort of everybody had on was inflation's never coming back, and inflation came back." — Luke Groman: Explaining the common false assumption behind bank, Fed, and policymaker positioning. "I think it is. They're really in this tough spot where they need to make a choice between letting the banking system kind of twist in the wind or let the release valve be the dollar and inflation." — Luke Groman: On why the Fed may have effectively ended its hiking cycle. "The last thing you want to own are bonds because inflation is... going way higher." — Luke Groman: Discussing war/geopolitical escalation and its implications for asset allocation.

Implications: Listeners should expect tighter credit, more policy volatility, and a likely pivot away from aggressive hikes. The favored positioning is short duration/cash plus gold, Bitcoin, commodities, energy, and selected equities, while sovereign bonds and the dollar face increasing structural risk.

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