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MacroVoices #380 Jim Bianco: FOMC to China to Dollar to AI

MacroVoices Erik Townsend and Patrick Ceresna welcome Bianco Research founder Jim Bianco to the show to discuss the FOMC statement, the Fed’s hawkish pause, where rates and stock prices are headed, and much more. https://bit.ly/3Cy5V84 Download Big Picture Trading chartbook 📈📉 https://bit.ly/42FY3fC

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Executive Summary: Macro Voices 380 centers on Jim Bianco’s view that the Fed’s June “pause” was a hawkish skip, not a dovish pivot: the dot plot still implies two more hikes in 2023 and rate cuts are unlikely absent market stress. The discussion also covers reserve-currency durability, China’s disappointing reopening, debt-ceiling liquidity effects, AI mania, and technically stretched equity, oil, and gold markets.

Main Topics: Fed policy: hawkish pause vs. dovish pivot (Priority: 5/5): Bianco argues the FOMC’s decision to hold rates was not an end to tightening; the dot plot still points to two additional hikes and no cuts. He frames the move as a hawkish skip, not a pause signaling imminent easing. Rates, bonds, and the conditions for a true pivot (Priority: 5/5): The interview emphasizes that the Fed historically cuts only in panic, not as a victory lap. Higher two-year yields and the bond market’s message are interpreted as evidence the market is still pricing more inflation/tighter policy risk. U.S. dollar, reserve currency status, and de-dollarization (Priority: 4/5): Bianco defends the dollar’s reserve role as the cheapest and most liquid global settlement currency, while acknowledging sanctions and geopolitical tensions are motivating efforts by China and Russia to build alternatives. China reopening disappoints and geopolitical risk rises (Priority: 4/5): Despite reopening from zero-COVID and visible domestic activity, Chinese growth remains weak, forcing policy easing. The conversation links China’s underwhelming recovery to property weakness, banking stress, and rising Taiwan-related geopolitical risk. Financial-system liquidity and the Treasury General Account (Priority: 5/5): Bianco explains how rebuilding the TGA after the debt ceiling suspension may drain liquidity depending on whether Treasury bill buyers fund purchases by drawing down the Fed’s reverse repo facility or by pulling cash from bank reserves. AI mania and market concentration (Priority: 4/5): The rally is viewed as highly concentrated in a few mega-cap tech names, especially Nvidia and Apple, with AI potentially transformative long term but likely overhyped in the short term, echoing the dot-com pattern. Post-game technicals: equities, oil, gold, uranium (Priority: 3/5): The post-game focuses on SPX breakout risk after a 61.8% retracement, weak crude amid inventory builds, a consolidating gold market that may correct further, and uranium as one of the few strong commodities.

Key Arguments: The Fed’s June decision was a hawkish skip because the updated dot plot still showed two 25 bp hikes in 2023 and almost all voting members expected at least one more hike. A true dovish pivot has been rare since 1995; in modern cycles the Fed has cut rates mainly during panic or crisis, not after declaring victory over inflation. Market participants are too optimistic about cuts; if the Fed only pauses, risk assets may need to fall sharply before policy eases. The U.S. dollar remains the reserve currency because no other currency offers comparable liquidity, depth, rule of law, and low transaction friction. Sanctioning Russian reserves and using SWIFT restrictions may encourage some countries to seek alternatives, making de-dollarization a longer-term but real risk. China’s reopening has been a major disappointment: mobility normalized, but growth did not accelerate, prompting rate cuts from the PBoC and renewed property/banking concerns. A Taiwan conflict would be devastating because semiconductors and oil are the world’s most important commodities; even a small accident could escalate quickly. Treasury’s post-debt-ceiling cash rebuild could drain liquidity from markets if bill issuance is funded by bank reserves rather than by reverse repo balances. The current equity rally is narrow and driven by a handful of mega-cap tech stocks; broad indices and equal-weight measures do not confirm the move. AI may be genuinely transformative over years, but the related stocks may still be in a speculative phase similar to the late-1990s internet boom.

Data Points: SP 500 weekly change: Up 337 basis points - Macro scoreboard for the week through June 14, 2023 SP 500 close: 4,418 - Weekly close cited in the opening macro scoreboard U.S. Dollar Index weekly change: Down 106 basis points - Macro scoreboard for the week through June 14, 2023 U.S. Dollar Index close: 103 - Weekly close cited in the opening macro scoreboard WTI crude weekly change: Down 575 basis points - August WTI contract in the opening macro scoreboard WTI crude close: 68.46 - August WTI contract, near 52-week lows Gold weekly change: Up 54 basis points - Macro scoreboard for the week through June 14, 2023 Gold close: 1,969 - Gold remains in consolidation Copper weekly change: Up 320 basis points - Macro scoreboard for the week through June 14, 2023 Copper close: 387 - Weekly close cited in opening macro scoreboard Uranium weekly change: Up 150 basis points - Macro scoreboard for the week through June 14, 2023 Uranium close: 57,40 - Weekly close cited in opening macro scoreboard U.S. 10-year Treasury yield: 3.80% - Flat on the week in the macro scoreboard Fed dot plot implication: Two more 25 bp hikes in 2023 - Bianco’s reading of the June FOMC dot plot FOMC voting members expecting at least one hike: 16 of 18 - Bianco notes only two members did not see a higher year-end funds rate Federal funds rate reference: No cut implied - Dot plot suggested hikes, not easing TGA balance after debt ceiling resolution: $23 billion - Treasury General Account was run down to a minimal level before refill Target TGA refill: About $450 billion - Treasury wanted to rebuild its checking account Extraordinary measures to be repaid: About $330 billion - Borrowing from pension/trust funds to be reversed Total near-term liquidity drain estimate: About $700 billion - Sum of TGA refill and repayment of extraordinary measures Fed reverse repo facility balance: $2.2 trillion - Potential liquidity offset for Treasury bill issuance Reverse repo counterparties: About 115 - Mostly money market funds using the facility Money market fund share in RRP: About 45% - Bianco says nearly half of money market assets are parked at the Fed facility SP 500 year-to-date gain attribution: 8 stocks account for the entire gain - Bianco argues the rally is extremely concentrated Nvidia and Apple contribution: About half of the SP 500’s 11% gain - Two stocks dominate the index advance China zero-COVID reopening timing: December 2022 reopening after protests - Background for the weak 2023 recovery China central bank policy move: Repo rate cut - Mentioned as evidence of disappointing growth U.S. crude production: 12.4 million bpd - Held unchanged but at a post-COVID high plateau EIA crude inventory change: +7.9 million barrels - Included 1.9 million barrels drawn from the SPR SPR drawdown since Sept. 2021: 269 million barrels - Described as 43.5% of the September 2021 level SPX technical level: 61.8% Fibonacci retracement breached - Used by hosts to discuss bear-market rally exhaustion SPX call wall: 4,400 - Nick Galarnick’s options positioning analysis SPX put wall: 4,000 - Key downside support in options flow analysis SPX July 21 implied move: 120 points - Expected move for the monthly OPEX SPX upper expected move: 4,480 - Derived from July 21 implied move SPX lower expected move: 4,240 - Derived from July 21 implied move QQQ spot price: 363 - Post-game options/technical discussion QQQ implied move: +/- 18 points - July 21 monthly OPEX QQQ upper expected move: 381 - Derived from implied move QQQ lower expected move: 345 - Derived from implied move VIX level: Around 14-15 - Referenced as a low-volatility zone with limited daily expected moves

Pivotal Quotes: "the Fed did not raise rates for the first time in 14 months, 15 months... is it a skip or is it a pause" — Jim Bianco: Describing the June FOMC decision "the Fed will just say, we've done enough. Now we could back off on rates... But that's not the way that this Fed has worked for a generation" — Jim Bianco: On why a dovish pivot is unlikely without crisis "the U.S. dollar is still the world's global reserve currency still for one reason and one reason only, which is there is no viable alternative" — Eric Townsend: On reserve currency status and de-dollarization

Implications: Listeners should treat the Fed pause as potentially temporary, expect tighter liquidity from Treasury financing, and avoid assuming a near-term dovish pivot. The market’s narrow AI-led rally and weak China recovery suggest elevated fragility across rates, equities, and commodities.

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