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MacroVoices #410 Justin Huhn: Investing in All Things Nuclear

MacroVoices Erik Townsend & Patrick Ceresna welcome Justin Huhn as this weeks guest. Erik & Justin focus on the immediate investment plays in the uranium mining sector, and how pending legislation only strengthens the bull case for Uranium and Uranium mining shares. ⚫ Follow Justin H

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Executive Summary: Macro Voices Episode 410 centers on a deeply bullish case for uranium and uranium equities, driven by a persistent structural supply deficit, declining secondary supply, rising contracting activity, and geopolitical efforts to reduce dependence on Russia. Justin Huhn argues the market is still early in a long bull cycle, while the hosts also cover near-term technical setups in oil, equities, dollar, gold, and the implications of recent CPI, PPI, and Fed expectations.

Main Topics: Uranium structural supply deficit (Priority: 5/5): Justin Huhn argues global uranium supply remains below reactor demand and that the deficit is likely to persist for years because secondary supply has largely disappeared and new mines take time to develop. Kazakhstan, Russia, and geopolitical supply risk (Priority: 5/5): Discussion focused on Kazakhstan's production guidance, Russia's role in conversion/enrichment, and how geopolitical bifurcation could tighten Western access to uranium-related services and pounds. U.S. policy and sanctions on Russian uranium (Priority: 5/5): The House-passed bill to ban Russian uranium imports was analyzed as a likely Senate pass with waivers through 2027, potentially triggering market disruption if Russia retaliates. Uranium equity valuation and contracting cycle (Priority: 4/5): Huhn compares current uranium-stock valuations with the 2006 bull market, arguing equities are not yet overheated and that a multi-year replacement-rate contracting cycle has begun. COP28, nuclear expansion, and ESG acceptance (Priority: 4/5): The conversation frames COP28's pledge to triple nuclear capacity by 2050 as a watershed moment that legitimizes nuclear within ESG and may increase long-term uranium demand. Gold, oil, dollar, and broad market technicals (Priority: 3/5): In the post-game, the hosts assess near-term chart levels for SPX, QQQ, VIX, DXY, gold, and crude oil, with a constructive longer-term view on gold and a cautious-to-neutral oil outlook. Mining labor and supply-chain constraints (Priority: 4/5): Huhn highlights labor shortages, aging workforces, and supply-chain friction as key bottlenecks that will slow new uranium supply regardless of price incentives.

Key Arguments: Global uranium demand exceeds primary mine supply, and the gap is no longer being filled by meaningful secondary supply. The mid-2000s bull market had large secondary supply from warhead downblending and enrichment underfeeding; today those buffers are largely gone. Even at roughly $94/lb, most uranium projects can be profitable, but it takes years to bring mines and ISR fields into production. Kazatomprom cannot simply 'turn on the taps'; production increases require capex and well-field development lead time. Russia remains a major player in conversion and enrichment but is itself short uranium, limiting its ability to fully solve Western supply needs. U.S. legislation banning Russian uranium imports is likely to pass and could provoke retaliatory supply actions from Russia. The uranium equity sector is not yet priced like a mature bull market; valuations remain well below prior-cycle extremes. Utilities are entering a multi-year contracting cycle, and replacement-rate contracting should support prices. COP28 and recent national policy moves in the U.S., UK, and France are improving the long-term demand outlook for nuclear power. Labor shortages and supply-chain delays may extend project timelines, making future supply slower to respond than investors expect. Gold appears poised for a major breakout later in 2024 as rate cuts, deficits, and political constraints on the Fed support the metal. Oil may stay range-bound absent a major geopolitical escalation, while the dollar and SPX remain in technical uptrends but vulnerable to post-OpEx volatility.

Data Points: Uranium spot price: $94/lb - Current price cited during the uranium bull market discussion Secondary uranium supply today: ~15 million pounds/year - Huhn's estimate of current secondary supply after major sources faded Secondary supply in prior bull market: 30+ million pounds/year - Mid-2000s market had substantially more supply from downblending and underfeeding Megatons to Megawatts program: ~20 million pounds/year for 20 years - Historical Russian warhead downblending program that supported civil nuclear demand Kazatomprom 2024 production guidance: ~25,500 tons or 65-66 million pounds on a 100% basis - Target cited as 10% below subsoil-use agreement levels Kazatomprom 2025 production guidance: ~30,500 tons or ~80 million pounds on a 100% basis - Target cited as full subsoil-use agreement levels ISR well-field ramp time: ~18 months to peak production - Time lag discussed for in-situ recovery operations even in ideal geology NextGen Arrow project timeline: ~4-5 years to first production - Example of a large new mine still several years from output Denison Mines EV / pounds: $6.77 per pound - Current valuation versus in-situ resources compared with prior bull market Denison Mines historical EV / pounds: ~$24 per pound - 2006 valuation at $50/lb uranium, inflation adjusted to about $76/lb today Cameco EV / pounds: $16.95 per pound - Current valuation versus in-situ resources Cameco historical EV / pounds: $24.57 per pound - 2006 valuation benchmark used for comparison 2023 term contracting volume: 160 million pounds - UXC-reported term contracts, about 85% of market coverage Annual reactor burn rate: ~180 million pounds/year - Used to frame 2023 as approximately replacement-rate contracting SPUT physical uranium holdings: ~60 million pounds - Current trust inventory discussed as having gone to 'uranium heaven' U.S. DOE RFP: $500 million - Announcement for LEU and HALEU from domestic producers U.S. mining workforce retirements: More than half of 221,000 expected to retire by 2029 - Labor shortage cited as a major constraint on mining capacity SPX spot level: ~4,790 - Post-game technical discussion SPX OpEx implied move: +/- 60 points - For January 19 OPEX, implying 4,730 downside and 4,850 upside QQQ spot level: ~410 - Post-game technical discussion QQQ OpEx implied move: +/- 6 points - For January 19 OPEX, implying 404 downside and 416 upside VIX level: ~13 - Low volatility environment discussed ahead of major news events Gold short-term support: Below 1990 is concerning - Technical level noted for short-to-intermediate-term gold outlook Gold long-term target: Above $2,500 by year-end 2024 - Patrick's bullish forecast for a breakout year Crude oil inventories: +1.3 million barrels - Weekly EIA crude build cited in the post-game Gasoline inventories: +8 million barrels - Weekly EIA products build cited in the post-game Distillate inventories: +6.5 million barrels - Weekly EIA products build cited in the post-game U.S. crude production: 13.2 million barrels/day - Held unchanged in the weekly EIA discussion

Pivotal Quotes: "It's a structurally short market." — Justin Huhn: Summarizing the uranium supply-demand balance and why higher prices are likely "Theoretically, it is. And I don't think that uranium is different than other commodities in the sense that eventually high prices will be the cure for high prices and we'll have supply respond to that price environment." — Justin Huhn: On whether enough capital and time could eventually bring new supply online before 2030 "2023 was year one of what is going to be a multi-year period for replacement rate contracting, or as you might call it, a contracting cycle." — Justin Huhn: Explaining why utility demand support could persist for several years

Implications: Listeners should expect uranium prices and uranium equities to remain supported by tight supply, contracting demand, and geopolitical risk, but timing is still critical. Near-term volatility is likely, while gold may offer a later-2024 breakout; oil remains range-bound unless geopolitics escalate sharply.

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