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MacroVoices #508 Laskhman Achuthan: Inflation Cycles Amid Regime Change

MacroVoices Erik Townsend & Patrick Ceresna welcome, Lakshman Achuthan. They’ll discuss all things cycles, from the current outlook on growth and inflation cycles to how cycles in general perform in times like these when big political and geopolitical headlines are driving markets. https://bit.l

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Executive Summary: Macro Voices 508 centers on Lakshman Achuthan’s view that despite policy regime change, the cycle framework still points to a resilient Goldilocks backdrop: growth is firming, inflation is contained, and recession risk is not imminent. The post-game shifts to market tactics, arguing for hedged long exposure given AI froth, thin holiday liquidity, and a market that may still have room to run before any broader unwind.

Main Topics: Cycles amid policy regime change (Priority: 5/5): Lak argues that even in a world of major policy and geopolitical disruption, ECRI’s cycle indicators remain reliable for identifying growth inflection points. He cites historical regime shifts like the Fed’s creation, Smoot-Hawley, Nixon shock, and post-COVID stimulus to show cycles persist through structural change. Current macro regime: Goldilocks, not recession (Priority: 5/5): The interview repeatedly lands on a constructive outlook: growth has firmed, inflation is fading/contained, and there is no hard landing or stagflation in the near-term cyclical data. Lak emphasizes a balanced expansion rather than collapse. K-shaped consumption and fragile breadth (Priority: 5/5): Consumption is increasingly concentrated among higher-income households, with the top 10% driving much of spending while median households face credit stress and weak job creation. This creates an economy that looks stronger than its broad base would suggest. AI boom, capital misallocation, and bust risk (Priority: 4/5): Lak and Eric discuss parallels to the dot-com era: AI is likely transformative, but the current capital rush may misallocate resources and eventually unwind. The key debate is timing, not whether a bust will eventually occur. Inflation cycle and future interest-rate path (Priority: 4/5): Lak says current inflation is not running away, with core goods moving up but shelter/services easing. He sees no strong inflation case for a hawkish Fed, but structural stickiness may keep the long end of yields elevated. Holiday market action and year-end positioning (Priority: 4/5): Eric and Patrick interpret the market rebound as driven by hot-money de-risking/re-risking into year-end, with thin liquidity amplifying moves. They frame the near-term setup as tactically bullish but vulnerable to stop-clearing volatility. Sector views: oil, gold, uranium, and rates (Priority: 3/5): Post-game chart discussion highlights weak oil, potentially bullish gold breakout, uranium mean reversion with spot/term-price dynamics, and 10-year yields at a critical 4% area with odds favoring a lower trend.

Key Arguments: Cycles still work through regime change: the rulebook may change, but leading-cycle indicators can still correctly identify turning points in growth and inflation. The economy is in a Goldilocks phase: growth is firming while inflation remains contained, so recession and stagflation are not the base case. The apparent strength of the economy is narrower than the headline data suggest because consumption is concentrated at the top end of the income distribution. AI is a real structural advance, but market participants may be overbuilding and overpaying for related assets, creating eventual bust risk. Current inflation data are mixed: core goods inflation is rising from deflationary levels, but shelter and services are easing, keeping overall inflation contained. There is no strong cyclical reason for a hawkish Fed right now; the short end of rates could ease while the long end remains sticky. Near-term equity upside may continue, but delta-one long exposure has poor risk/reward because AI-driven froth creates left-tail risk. Oil weakness may conflict with improving industrial-cycle breadth, suggesting a possible lagging recovery in energy prices if global industrial momentum strengthens. Gold appears to be in a constructive base and may be setting up for an upside breakout, though holiday liquidity can create false signals. Uranium has likely seen an important low, but the trade remains vulnerable to broad risk-off shocks until spot prices confirm the move.

Data Points: S&P 500: 6766, up 187 bps week over week - Macro scoreboard at the close of Tuesday, Nov. 26, 2025 U.S. dollar index: 99.78, down 33 bps - Macro scoreboard WTI crude oil (Jan): $57.95, down 219 bps - Macro scoreboard; oil near year lows Arbob gasoline (Jan): 180, down 323 bps - Macro scoreboard Gold (Feb): 4177, up 138 bps - Macro scoreboard; gold strengthening off recent lows Copper (Mar): 509, down 20 bps - Macro scoreboard Uranium (Dec): 7585, down 39 bps - Macro scoreboard U.S. 10-year Treasury yield: 4.01%, down 13 bps - Macro scoreboard; back at the key 4% level SP 500 correction depth: 6% peak-to-trough - Post-game discussion described the move as a bona fide correction AI/bubble hedge structure: Long $6,400 put / short $7,100 call / net debit about $18 - Patrick’s suggested S&P 500 collar using Jan. 15, 2026 expiration Put premium: about $54 - SP 500 collar structure Call premium: about $36 - SP 500 collar structure Expiration: January 15, 2026 (~50 days at recording) - SP 500 collar structure Core goods inflation: roughly -2% to +2% move - Lak notes core goods moved from deflation in 2024 to near 2% inflation Survey/timing horizon: 2-3 quarters - Lak says cycle indicators are looking out a couple of quarters Gold breakout level: above $4,200 on a daily close - Patrick’s technical threshold for confirming upside breakout URA technical level: around $47 - Post-game uranium technical level for reclaiming the 50-day moving average 10-year yield threshold: 4.00% - Repeatedly cited as a key inflection level

Pivotal Quotes: "The rules can change, the magnitude of the swings can get larger and smaller as the structure of the economy changes over all these decades. But this inflection point monitoring and kind of risk of question actually is pretty darn stable." — Lakshman Achuthan: Explaining why cycle analysis remains useful during regime change "Right now, we're in a Goldilocks phase. Growth firming, inflation contained, no hard landing, no stagflation." — Lakshman Achuthan: Summarizing the current cyclical macro outlook "I think this is entirely about hot money fund managers protecting their tear sheets into year-end." — Eric Townsend: Post-game explanation for the late-November equity-market rebound/correction

Implications: For investors, the message is constructive but cautionary: stay aware of upside in equities and cyclicals, but hedge against AI-fueled froth and holiday-liquidity volatility. Near-term macro supports risk assets, yet a later-cycle unwind could still arrive quickly once leading indicators turn.

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