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Markets Update: Inflation and Equities

Peter Oppenheimer, Goldman Sachs’ chief global equity strategist and head of Macro Research in Europe, talks about why the changing mix of policy support in this cycle suggests a possible inflection point towards a more reflationary environment. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/a

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Executive Summary: Peter Oppenheimer argues the post-crisis deflationary era is giving way to synchronized global growth, negative real rates, fiscal stimulus, and rising capex tied to decarbonization. He says this backdrop should favor equities over bonds and drive rotations toward value, cyclicals, banks, and dividend-paying stocks, while low-volatility and defensive assets lose relative appeal.

Main Topics: Shift from deflation to reflation (Priority: 5/5): Oppenheimer says the last decade was marked by falling inflation, yields, and synchronized growth weakness, but the next phase may feature stronger global growth, fiscal expansion, and improving inflation expectations. Equities vs. bonds in a reflationary regime (Priority: 5/5): He argues that equities should outperform fixed income as profits recover and investors rotate out of government bonds and cash-like assets that benefited from deflation. Rotation from growth to value and cyclicals (Priority: 5/5): The discussion highlights how cheap, economically sensitive sectors such as resources, industrials, financials, and other value names may outperform as growth and inflation rebound. Banks and financials recovery (Priority: 4/5): Banks are presented as a major beneficiary of stronger growth and rising rates, especially in Europe where they had been heavily beaten down and have recently posted positive earnings surprises. Higher volatility and lower defensive premium (Priority: 4/5): As economic confidence improves, investors may favor higher-risk, more volatile assets over low-volatility strategies that were rewarded in the low-rate, uncertainty-heavy post-crisis era. Dividend improvement and equity income appeal (Priority: 4/5): Rising profits should support dividend growth and make equity income more attractive relative to compressed bond yields, improving total return prospects for stocks.

Key Arguments: The post-2009 environment was structurally disinflationary due to weak and unsynchronized growth, austerity, banking/sovereign crises, collapsing commodities, and digitization. The new environment features stronger synchronized global growth, with Goldman economists forecasting 6.5% real GDP growth this year and over 4.5% next year. Zero policy rates and record-loose financial conditions imply negative real rates, which support risk assets and reduce deflation fears. A large U.S. fiscal package and strong household savings provide additional demand support. Decarbonization will require major capital investment in physical infrastructure, adding to reflationary forces over time. Equities should benefit from improving profitability, especially as global profits are expected to rebound sharply after the pandemic-era collapse. Value and cyclicals look attractive because they are historically cheap, highly geared to growth, and positioned to recover from depressed earnings bases. Banks have repaired balance sheets and are now more sensitive to rising rates and stronger growth, with recent earnings surprises indicating momentum. Low-volatility and defensive assets were favored when growth was uncertain, but a recovery should shift investor preference toward higher-beta names. Dividend payouts should improve as corporate profits recover, making equity income more dependable and competitive with low bond yields.

Data Points: Expected global real GDP growth: 6.5% this year; over 4.5% next year - Goldman Sachs economists’ forecast cited by Peter Oppenheimer as evidence of strong synchronized growth Fiscal program in the US: $1.5 trillion - Expected additional U.S. fiscal support discussed as part of reflation backdrop Fiscal support as share of GDP: 6.8% of GDP - Estimated size of the $1.5 trillion program Prior U.S. fiscal approval: $900 billion - Already approved toward the end of the prior year Infrastructure investment tied to decarbonization: $16 trillion over the next couple of decades - Estimated capital investment needed for physical infrastructure in a decarbonizing world Net inflows into global equity funds: $60 billion in one week - Evidence that capital is already rotating back toward equities Equity inflow percentile: 96th percentile of history - Weekly inflows scaled by assets, indicating exceptional strength Global profit growth expectation: About 35% - Expected profit rebound in major stock markets globally Next-year profit growth expectation: Double digits in 2022 - Continuation of earnings recovery after the initial rebound European bank earnings surprise: About 27% beat versus consensus - Latest earnings season in Europe showing strong upside surprise for banks Share of banks beating consensus: Almost 80% by more than 5% - Broad-based positive surprise among banks 10-year U.S. government bond yield pre-2008: About 4% - Used to illustrate the long-term decline in bond yields 10-year U.S. government bond yield now: Around 1% - Current low bond yield environment cited in comparison to past

Pivotal Quotes: "we may be heading towards a more reflationary environment than we've seen really since the financial crisis in 2009" — Peter Oppenheimer: Core thesis describing the macro regime shift "deflation is very negative for real assets like equities. It's very good for nominal risk-free assets like government bonds" — Peter Oppenheimer: Explains why a reflationary shift should favor stocks over bonds "the best returns at equities are when you're at a point where you have very low inflation and bond yields, but they start to increase" — Peter Oppenheimer: Historical argument for why rising but still-low yields can support equity performance

Implications: If inflation expectations rise with growth, investors may rotate from bonds, defensives, and low-volatility strategies into cyclicals, banks, value, and dividend-paying equities. The main risk is misjudging inflation as it could pressure valuations and rates.

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