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Michael Mauboussin – Who's on the Other Side (Capital Allocators, EP.99)

Michael Mauboussin is the well-known investment strategist currently plying his wares at Blue Mountain Capital. He joined me for the second time to discuss his new research entitled "Who's on the Other Side?" Our conversation dives into the work, discussing how investors can focus on

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Ted Seides – Allocator and Asset Management Expert HostMichael Mobison Guest

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Executive Summary: Michael Mobison argues investors should judge edge by process, not just outcomes, and frames alpha through four lenses: behavioral, analytical, informational, and technical. He emphasizes distinguishing fundamentals from expectations, using group decision-making carefully, exploiting attention and complexity, and recognizing principal-agent and liquidity-driven dislocations. He also discusses private markets, AI’s effect on time horizons, and lacrosse analytics.

Main Topics: Process vs. outcome in investing (Priority: 5/5): Mobison explains why investors must evaluate whether a manager’s process remains sound when performance is poor, especially when luck is high and sample sizes are small. BAIT framework: four sources of edge (Priority: 5/5): He codifies edge into behavioral, analytical, informational, and technical categories, noting each has different implications for discovery and monetization. Behavioral inefficiencies and crowds (Priority: 5/5): Discussion centers on overextrapolation, correlated beliefs, cyclicality, and why markets can shift from wisdom of crowds to madness of crowds. Team structure, cognitive diversity, and decision processes (Priority: 4/5): Mobison argues that three-manager teams can outperform if they have cognitive diversity and disciplined processes for surfacing alternatives and voting independently. Analytical skill, weighting, and updating (Priority: 5/5): He distinguishes raw analytical horsepower from the ability to identify linchpin issues, weight evidence correctly, and update views without confirmation bias. Informational edge, attention, and complexity (Priority: 4/5): He highlights asymmetries in information access, the importance of attention, and how complex systems can create persistent mispricings. Technical dislocations, capital access, and private markets (Priority: 4/5): He reviews leverage cycles, arbitrage failures, demand shocks, and the role of access to capital in exploiting forced buying/selling and crisis opportunities.

Key Arguments: A poor track record does not necessarily mean a bad process; investors should ask whether weakness reflects bad luck or a broken process. Edge is best understood as a taxonomy: behavioral, analytical, informational, and technical sources each create different inefficiencies. Markets are dominated less by individual biases than by group behavior, especially overextrapolation and correlated beliefs. The biggest mistake in investing is confusing fundamentals with expectations; value comes from mispricing versus what is already priced in. Three-person PM teams can be especially effective because odd-number decision structures avoid deadlock while enabling cognitive diversity. Adding more information often increases confidence more than accuracy; portfolio managers should focus on the few linchpin issues that matter most. Information matters, but attention matters even more because people can fail to notice what is literally in front of them. Technical opportunities often arise when capital is constrained, creating forced selling, leverage-cycle spirals, arbitrage gaps, or index-driven demand shocks. Artificial intelligence and data tools are likely to make shorter-horizon markets more efficient, but longer-term judgment remains a human advantage. Private markets increasingly perform functions once handled by public markets, especially for late-stage companies and capital access around strategic financing.

Data Points: Manager performance review horizon: No fixed answer; depends on skill-luck mix and whether the process remains robust - Mobison on how long to suffer losses before judging a manager Portfolio managers in high-performing funds: 3 - Research cited by Mobison found funds with three PMs delivered the most alpha Single-manager share of funds: more than three-quarters historically; now less than a quarter - Industry shift toward team-based management over the last 25 years Coin flips example: 7 tails out of 10 - Illustrates strong signal but low validity and the risk of overconfidence Coin flips example: 5,100 tails out of 10,000 - Illustrates small but highly significant signal with high validity SPX level in March 2009: 670 - Example of a severe dislocation that looked attractive on normalized fundamentals Earnings power in March 2009 example: $85 - Mobison’s normalized earnings estimate in the crisis example Credit spreads in March 2009: 1,000 basis points - Used to show crisis-era opportunity despite extreme fear Radiologists missing gorilla: 83% failed to see it - Attention study showing observers can miss obvious objects when focused elsewhere Radiologists who looked at gorilla: about half of those who missed it looked directly at it - Demonstrates inattentional blindness rather than mere visual omission Average Division I American lacrosse shooting percentage: 28% - Benchmarked against Canadian players in lacrosse analytics discussion Average Canadian lacrosse shooting percentage: 34%-35% - Illustrates an apparent shooting-efficiency advantage Shooting efficiency edge: 700-800 basis points - Difference in shooting percentage between Canadian and American players Books read per year: 40-50 - Mobison’s personal reading habit Working authors he never misses: 2 - Matt Levine and Michael Lewis are his must-read writers

Pivotal Quotes: "The biggest mistake in the investment business is a failure to distinguish between fundamentals and expectations." — Michael Mobison: On how investors should frame valuation and mispricing "Value investing in its core is the marriage between a contrarian streak and a calculator." — Seth Klarman (quoted by Michael Mobison): Used to explain behavioral edge and the importance of disciplined valuation "Do what you're doing." — Michael Mobison: His motto, Age quod agis, emphasizing focus, discipline, and responsibility

Implications: Listeners should focus less on short-term results and more on repeatable process, decision quality, and where edge truly comes from. The episode suggests future alpha will depend on disciplined teams, attention to dislocations, and longer-term thinking as technology makes short horizons more efficient.

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