How I Built This with Guy Raz
How I Built This with Guy Raz

Minted: Mariam Naficy (2018)

In 2000, Mariam Naficy sold her first company, an online cosmetics store called Eve.com, for $110 million. Several years later, she got the entrepreneurial itch once again: she founded Minted.com, an online stationery store that solicits designs from artists all over the world. Today Minted is one o

Featured Speakers

Guy Raz | Wondery HostMiriam Nafisi Guest

Topics Discussed

Episode Summary

Executive Summary: Miriam Nafisi recounts building two internet-era companies: Eve.com, an online cosmetics retailer sold at the dot-com peak, and Minted, which nearly failed before pivoting into a crowdsourced marketplace for stationery and emerging artists. Her story centers on timing, resilience, design-led differentiation, and the importance of adapting business models when the market reveals what customers actually want.

Main Topics: From immigrant outsider to ambitious student: Nafisi describes her childhood in Tehran, immigration to the U.S. during political upheaval, and how feeling like an outsider shaped her drive to integrate and excel academically. Early career training in finance and consulting: She explains how Goldman Sachs and other high-intensity roles gave her work ethic, operating discipline, and confidence before entrepreneurship. Building and selling Eve.com during the dot-com boom: Nafisi and her partner launched an online cosmetics retailer in a market that initially doubted women would shop online; the company grew quickly and was sold before the crash. Minted’s original concept and cash-flow strategy: After Eve, she launched Minted as an online stationery retailer to stay capital-efficient, using retail stationery as the business base while quietly experimenting with design competitions. The pivot to crowdsourcing and artist discovery: Minted succeeded only after the crowdsourced design side outperformed the planned retailer model, forcing Nafisi to abandon partner brands and focus fully on user-generated designs. Competition, supply-chain pressure, and scale: The company later faced an attempt by a competitor to squeeze its printer supply, but Minted responded by rapidly changing printers and preserving the business. Luck, timing, and perseverance in entrepreneurship: Nafisi emphasizes that success depended on both hard work and luck—especially timing, access, and having a prior exit that built credibility.

Key Arguments: Immigrant experience and outsider status can create resilience and ambition, especially when paired with strong family expectations and academic discipline. Front-end skepticism about new online categories should be discounted; many successful internet businesses faced claims that consumers would never buy those products online. Prior entrepreneurial success mainly mattered because it established personal reputation, which later helped Minted raise capital even with weak early traction. Minted’s breakthrough came not from its original retail plan but from an experimental crowdsourcing model that better matched customer demand and surfaced superior designs. A business should pivot toward what customers actually choose, even if that means abandoning sunk costs, partner commitments, and the original thesis. Design can be a meaningful competitive advantage, but many investors and Silicon Valley players initially undervalued it compared with more familiar tech or retail models.

Data Points: Eve.com first-year sales: $10 million - Nafisi says the cosmetics e-commerce company generated this amount in its first year after launch. Eve.com sale price: $110 million - The company was sold in 2000 near the peak before the dot-com crash. Minted angel funding: $2.5 million - She raised this amount from angels rather than VCs to maintain control and pursue the new venture. Initial valuation offered: $6 million - One VC term sheet initially valued Eve.com at this level before terms changed. Revised valuation: $4 million - A competing investor alliance pushed the valuation down in a collusive financing maneuver. Minted early conversion rate: 0.1% - At launch, the site’s traffic converted very poorly, signaling serious trouble. Minted cash left during early crisis: a couple hundred thousand dollars - Nafisi describes the company as running short on runway before the pivot gained traction. Designer competition launch supply: 66 cards - Minted’s first crowdsourced save-the-date competition produced this small initial set of winning designs. Holiday growth outcome: oversold - Minted became so popular in holiday cards that it had to shut off search marketing to manage demand. Artist submission scale today: tens of thousands per year - The outro notes the current size of Minted’s artist submission ecosystem. Public company scale today: low hundreds of millions in sales - Nafisi states Minted is profitable and operating at this revenue level.

Pivotal Quotes: "It was terrifying and horrible. Horrible. And we almost, I really contemplated that moment, this is a failure." — Miriam Nafisi: Describing Minted’s silent launch with no orders in the first month. "A real entrepreneur doesn't go to business school." — Miriam Nafisi: She reflects on her shift from finance to entrepreneurship while at Stanford. "The business model was to take all the brand names, put them online, and provide convenient access online." — Miriam Nafisi: Explaining Minted’s initial stationery-retail concept before the crowdsourcing pivot.

Implications: The episode shows that successful consumer startups often emerge from pivots, not original plans. It also highlights how design, reputation, and adaptability can turn a failing e-commerce idea into a durable platform.

🔓 Sign Up for Unlimited Episode Search

About How I Built This with Guy Raz

Guy Raz interviews the world’s best-known entrepreneurs to learn how they built their iconic brands. In each episode, founders reveal deep, intimate moments of doubt and failure, and share insights on their eventual success. How I Built This is a master-class on innovation, creativity, leadership and how to navigate challenges of all kinds.New episodes release on Mondays and Thursdays. Listen to How I Built This on the Wondery App or wherever you listen to your podcasts. You can lis...

View all episodes from How I Built This with Guy Raz