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One In A Million!

UC Berkeley SETI researcher Andrew Siemion and his colleagues have put an upper limit on the number of civilizations in our galaxy that are capable of giving us a call. He’ll explain their reasoning and provide other search updates.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See o

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The Planetary Society HostAndrew Siemian Guest

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Executive Summary: This Planetary Radio episode spans Mars rover progress, a striking Earth-Moon transit image, and a deep dive into SETI research with Andrew Siemion. The interview explains how a targeted search of Kepler planet candidates with Green Bank found no signal but still constrained the prevalence of advanced civilizations, while also previewing next-generation searches with LOFAR and SETI@home. Bruce Betts closes with skywatching, space history, and asteroid-impact context.

Main Topics: Curiosity’s final first-time drilling/sample milestone: Emily Lakdawalla explains that Curiosity completed its last first-time engineering operation: moving drilled Martian powder into sample chambers and then into the onboard analytical instruments. Earth-Moon transit image from Deep Impact: The show highlights a rare video of the Moon transiting Earth, captured by Deep Impact after its primary comet mission while it was repurposed for extrasolar-planet-style observations. Targeted SETI search of Kepler planet candidates: Andrew Siemion describes observing 86 promising Kepler systems with the Green Bank Telescope, focusing on habitable-zone and multi-planet systems, but finding no extraterrestrial radio signal. Interpreting the “one in a million” result: Siemion clarifies that the headline limit applies to extremely advanced, very bright civilizations across the Milky Way beam footprint, not to ordinary Earth-like technological societies. Next-generation SETI tools: LOFAR and distributed computing: The conversation shifts to future searches using LOFAR’s low-frequency array and expanded SETI@home processing, which together broaden frequency coverage and discovery potential. Night sky, space history, and asteroid hazard context: Bruce Betts covers Jupiter, Sirius, Saturn, Rosetta, New Horizons, the Chelyabinsk meteor, and an asteroid-discovery trivia contest tied to 2012 DA14.

Key Arguments: Curiosity’s sample-handling success matters because it completes the rover’s last major first-time engineering challenge and enables full geochemical analysis of drilled Martian rocks. The Earth-Moon transit sequence is scientifically and visually valuable because it shows our world from an extrasolar-planet perspective, using a non-focusable instrument in an unusual repurposed mission. A null SETI result from 86 Kepler systems does not imply ET is unlikely overall; it mainly reflects the limited fraction of the radio spectrum and sky that can be searched in a short observation window. The stronger “fewer than one in a million” limit applies only to extremely powerful civilizations capable of Kardashev type II-level radio output across the Milky Way beam volume. SETI is becoming more effective because astronomy is finding more potentially habitable worlds while computing and telescope technology are rapidly expanding searchable bandwidth and frequency coverage. Citizen science via SETI@home remains crucial because it provides supercomputer-scale processing that would be prohibitively expensive to duplicate independently. LOFAR opens a largely unexplored low-frequency band for SETI, making the coming searches potentially the first in that part of the spectrum.

Data Points: Curiosity mission progress: ~200th sol (described as the 200th day of the mission) - Emily Lakdawalla notes Curiosity had just completed its last first-time sample-handling activity Sample size: About a tablespoon / 3 cubic centimeters - Rock powder collected after drilling on Mars Earth-Moon transit footage: Only image/video like it known to the guest - Deep Impact imaged the Moon passing in front of Earth Kepler planet candidates: More than 2,000 - Andrew Siemion describes the mission’s success rate and the pool used for SETI targeting Observed SETI targets: 86 stars - Green Bank observations of Kepler planet candidates Observation time per target: 5 minutes - Each of the 86 stars was observed briefly with Green Bank Telescope size (Green Bank): 100 meters - The fully steerable telescope used for the targeted SETI search Telescope size (Arecibo): 300 meters - Referenced as the largest single-dish telescope and source for SETI@home data Radio bandwidth searched previously: A few megahertz to ~100 megahertz - Historical SETI searches compared with newer searches Radio bandwidth searched in this study: About 1 gigahertz - Siemion explains the larger chunk of spectrum covered in the Green Bank search One-in-a-million limit: Fewer than 1 in 1,000,000 Milky Way stars - Upper bound on extremely advanced civilizations in the telescope beam volume Less advanced civilization limit: Fewer than 1 in 100 Kepler systems - Bound for civilizations about 8–10 times as radio-powerful as Earth’s most powerful transmitter Signal power threshold: ~10x the luminosity of the most powerful radio transmitter on Earth - Limit for marginally more advanced civilizations around target stars Extreme signal power threshold: ~100,000x the brightest radio transmitter on Earth - Used for the broader Milky Way-beam limit Civilization classification: Kardashev type II - Referenced for civilizations harnessing far more stellar energy than Earth humanity does LOFAR frequency range: 10 MHz to 250 MHz - First planned SETI search in this low-frequency band SETI@home processing scale: ~1.5 x 10^22 floating point operations - Citizen computing total cited as of about six months earlier Rosetta launch year: 2004 - Bruce Betts cites mission history New Horizons Jupiter flyby: 2007 - Space history segment Chelyabinsk meteoroid size: ~15 meters - Bruce Betts discusses the Russian impactor Chelyabinsk energy release: ~300 kilotons of TNT - Equivalent explosive energy estimate Altitude of breakup: ~20 kilometers - Chelyabinsk object exploded high in the atmosphere

Pivotal Quotes: "Fewer than one in a million stars in our galaxy hosts a civilization advanced enough to transmit a radio beacon we could hear." — Matt Kaplan: Opening framing of the SETI segment and headline conclusion "No, no, unfortunately, we haven't. That's the punchline of the last 50 years or so of modern SETI research." — Andrew Siemian: Response to the null detection from the Green Bank search "The real way to improve these limits in the future is to look at far more of the radio spectrum than we're looking at now." — Andrew Siemian: Explanation of why the current upper bounds are only a first step

Implications: The episode suggests SETI is entering a more powerful era: broader bandwidths, better telescopes, and citizen computing will make future searches far more exhaustive. Even without detections, the null results are tightening constraints and sharpening what “technological life” might look like.

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