How I Built This with Guy Raz
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Rent The Runway's Jenn Hyman At The HIBT Summit

Our first episode from the How I Built This Summit features Jenn Hyman, co-founder of Rent The Runway, a designer clothing rental service that pulls in $100 million a year. When Jenn sat down with Guy Raz for a live interview at the Summit in San Francisco, she shared her long term strategy for laun

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Guy Raz | Wondery HostJennifer Hyman Guest

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: Jennifer Hyman explains how Rent the Runway grew by introducing a radical fashion-rental vision in stages: first solving the easy-to-grasp problem of special-occasion dress rental, then expanding only after customer behavior and industry conditions matured. She argues that disruptive businesses win by pacing change, earning industry trust, and scaling with humility as the company evolves toward a cloud-based wardrobe.

Main Topics: Phased rollout of a disruptive idea (Priority: 5/5): Hyman says she always envisioned a 'closet in the cloud,' but started with dress rental because it was the most understandable entry point for consumers and investors. Timing product expansion to customer readiness (Priority: 5/5): She describes waiting until customers normalized the behavior through special-occasion rentals and then explicitly asked for subscription fashion for workwear. Managing industry resistance (Priority: 5/5): Hyman emphasizes that success required avoiding a retailer backlash and instead building relationships with major department stores and designers. Evidence that rental behavior already existed (Priority: 4/5): She recounts cold-calling Neiman Marcus and learning that customers were already effectively 'renting' runway items by buying, wearing, and returning them. Entrepreneurial mindset and humility (Priority: 4/5): Hyman argues founders need passion, long-term commitment, and humility to keep learning as their company scales rapidly. Long-term vision for fashion consumption (Priority: 4/5): Her ambition is to democratize fashion, reduce waste, and transform everyday dressing through a subscription/rental model.

Key Arguments: A radical idea should be introduced in the most digestible way first; for Rent the Runway, that meant special-occasion dress rental. Expansion should be driven by customer readiness, not just founder ambition; subscribers had to experience and normalize rental before adopting it for everyday wear. A business must consider industry value, not just customer value, because incumbents can block distribution and inventory access. Listening to customers revealed the next use case: workwear, which women saw as their most important occasion. Phased disruption can create long-term industry alignment; Rent the Runway moved from threat to partner in the fashion ecosystem. Founders do not need to be geniuses; they need passion, humility, and the ability to grow their leadership as the company scales. The rental model can reduce waste and give consumers freedom to change how they present themselves over time.

Data Points: Annual revenue: $100 million - Guy Raz describes Rent the Runway's revenue scale in the intro. Rental price vs retail price: 5% to 10% - Hyman says current-season designer inventory was rented for this share of the selling price. Neiman Marcus theft/rental-rate estimate: 70% - The president of Neiman Marcus said 70% of customers effectively rented runway items by buying and returning them. Macy's theft/rental-rate estimate: 35% - Hyman says Macy's estimated a 35% rate of this behavior. Average subscriber usage: 120 days per year - Hyman says the average subscriber now uses Rent the Runway for this many days annually. Company workforce at present: 1,500 people - Hyman compares early leadership experience to managing the current company size. Projected workforce growth: 3,000 people by the end of next year - Hyman says the company is likely to reach this scale soon. Current company age in example: 9 years in - Hyman frames Rent the Runway's relationship with the industry as having evolved over nine years. Wardrobe waste estimate: 80% worn three times or less - Hyman cites the share of closet items that end up underused and eventually in landfills.

Pivotal Quotes: "the closet would move into the cloud" — Jennifer Hyman: She describes her original, much larger vision for Rent the Runway. "We’re here to build a $100 billion company" — Jennifer Hyman: Hyman states her current ambition for the business and its long-term market impact. "Women have been renting the runway for my stores for decades. It’s called buying a dress, keeping the tags on, and returning it after you’ve worn it." — President of Neiman Marcus: He responds to Hyman's idea by revealing that the behavior already existed in retail.

Implications: The episode suggests disruptive startups should launch with a narrow, credible use case, then expand as customers and industries adapt. For fashion, rental/subscription may become a mainstream, lower-waste way to dress.

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Guy Raz interviews the world’s best-known entrepreneurs to learn how they built their iconic brands. In each episode, founders reveal deep, intimate moments of doubt and failure, and share insights on their eventual success. How I Built This is a master-class on innovation, creativity, leadership and how to navigate challenges of all kinds.New episodes release on Mondays and Thursdays. Listen to How I Built This on the Wondery App or wherever you listen to your podcasts. You can lis...

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