Episode Summary
Executive Summary: Patrick O’Shaughnessy interviews Sam Hinkie about his investing framework, with emphasis on long-term thinking, data-driven decision-making, contrarian bets, hiring, and machine learning. Hinkie maps NBA team-building to investing: find mispriced assets, use better inputs, and maintain patience through uncertainty.
Main Topics: Long-term orientation (Priority: 10/5): Hinkie argues durable outcomes come from judging decisions over decades, not quarters. Innovation and tech transfer (Priority: 9/5): He sees innovation as borrowing proven ideas from other domains and adapting them intelligently. Data, truth, and decision quality (Priority: 10/5): He treats analytics as a way to get closer to truth, but insists judgment still matters. Contrarianism and mispricing (Priority: 9/5): He says edge comes from being right where consensus and price diverge. Hiring and culture (Priority: 8/5): He prioritizes exceptional people, long recruiting cycles, and working before hiring. Machine learning and unstructured data (Priority: 8/5): He is excited by ML because it handles more data, new signals, and better prediction. Marriage, parenting, and life choices (Priority: 7/5): He frames spouse selection and family life as some of the highest-stakes decisions.
Key Arguments: Think in 30–40 years, not 3–4; short-term shortcuts create permanent regret. Innovation often means borrowing what works elsewhere and applying it here. Data improves decisions, but human judgment still overrides the model when context changes. Contrarian bets matter most where rules, scarcity, and prices limit easy edge. A players hire A players; hiring exceptional people compounds team quality. Machine learning matters because it can ingest more data and produce better predictions. Patience is often the rarest and most valuable arb in public, scrutiny-heavy settings.
Data Points: Sixers franchise rank: 24th - ESPN franchise rankings when Hinkie took over Sixers franchise rank later: 4th - ESPN franchise rankings today, per Patrick's intro Forbes valuation at takeover: about $418 million - Estimated 76ers value when Hinkie took over Forbes valuation later: $1.2 billion - Estimated 76ers value a few months before the episode NBA team value growth: top percentage growth number - Patrick says the 76ers had the league's top percentage growth more recently Trade deadline move: 32-year-old starting point guard for 22-year-old third stringer - Example of a contrarian Rockets trade that yielded Kyle Lowry Kyle Lowry acquisition: 22-year-old third stringer in Memphis - The player acquired in the trade Hinkie describes Aaron Brooks game: 25 points - Hinkie cites Brooks scoring in Portland after the trade Front office staff size: 50 odd employees - Approximate sports team front-office headcount Overall operation size: another 150 or so - Approximate total additional team staff Recruiting duration: very long recruiting cycles - Hinkie's preferred hiring process, no exact number given Draft uncertainty example: 30-year-old players vs 19-ish players - He uses age as a proxy for certainty in evaluation Twin studies: almost 800 twin studies - Referenced from Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids
Pivotal Quotes: "We don't want to wake up three or four years from now and regret this." — Sam Hinkie: He reframes the time horizon from a few years to decades "I don't care how to get to the best decision. I just want to get there." — Sam Hinkie: On balancing data, judgment, and art in decision-making "A players hire A players and B players hire C players" — Sam Hinkie: On why hiring quality compounds organizational performance
Implications: Listeners are left with a clear challenge: build systems that surface better truth faster, then have the patience to let those decisions compound.
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