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Seroka and Supply Chains

Mark, Ryan, and Cris welcome Gene Seroka, Executive Director of the Port of Los Angeles, to discuss current global supply chain conditions and economic implications.

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Executive Summary: Port of Los Angeles executive director Gene Soroka argued that today’s supply-chain stress stems from a mix of policy shocks, pandemic demand swings, labor/scaling constraints, and visibility problems, but emphasized conditions are far better than the peak crisis. He highlighted improved cargo flow, stronger data-sharing, ongoing risks in China and cyber threats, and the need for workforce upgrades and coordination.

Main Topics: From career in shipping to Port of LA leadership (Priority: 3/5): Soroka described a circuitous career path from APL entry-level work to years in Asia/Middle East and eventually becoming Port of Los Angeles executive director. Origins of the supply-chain crisis (Priority: 5/5): He traced congestion to the combination of Trump-era tariffs, pre-emptive inventory buildup, pandemic shutdowns, and a sudden consumer shift from services to goods. Current port conditions and recovery (Priority: 5/5): Soroka said the port is no longer in crisis mode; operations have improved substantially, with better visibility, faster cargo movement, and less severe vessel queuing. China lockdowns and port resilience (Priority: 4/5): He argued that Chinese ports and logistics networks remain resilient through lockdowns, with cargo shifting among ports and corridors rather than collapsing outright. Containers, pricing, and export imbalances (Priority: 4/5): Soroka explained container shortages and asymmetrical freight rates as supply-demand and logistics-network problems, worsened by limited container manufacturing and export-side frictions. Cybersecurity and Russia-Ukraine spillovers (Priority: 4/5): He said the most important port impact from the war is cyber risk, with the port’s security center monitoring millions of intrusion attempts monthly. Policy response, labor, and data-sharing (Priority: 5/5): He praised federal/state/local coordination and the FLOW/Port Optimizer data initiative, while warning that labor shortages, trucking, warehousing, and rail capacity remain key bottlenecks.

Key Arguments: Supply-chain bottlenecks were caused by a combination of tariffs, pandemic shutdowns, and a dramatic consumer shift toward goods, not just one factor. The economy moved from very low activity to extreme demand almost overnight, overwhelming vessels, containers, rail, and labor capacity. Even without tariffs, the sudden rebound in goods demand would likely have stressed global supply chains heavily. Current conditions are much improved; the port is in a middle phase of recovery rather than the crisis seen in 2020-21. China’s lockdowns have not fully shut trade; cargo is being rerouted among ports like Shanghai, Ningbo, and others to preserve flow. Container availability and freight pricing are driven mainly by supply-demand imbalance and the need to reposition empty boxes back to Asia. Data-sharing and coordination across shippers, ports, trucking, rail, and warehouses are essential to improving visibility, exception management, and routing decisions. The biggest near-term risks include labor shortages in trucking and warehousing, rail backlogs, and cyber intrusions rather than a repeat of early-pandemic collapse. Policy help mattered: government convening and port-focused initiatives improved information flow and helped clear cargo during the peak. Long-term resilience requires workforce training, upskilling, and technology adoption so workers can operate increasingly automated logistics systems.

Data Points: Port volume drop: nearly 50% - March 2020 volume through the Port of Los Angeles fell by about half at the start of the pandemic. Business decline after tariffs: 16% - By Q4 2019, port business dropped after tariffs and pre-shipment inventory buildup. Early-2020 volume decline: 19% - First five months of 2020 saw an additional 19% drop in port volume due to shutdowns. Low inventory-sales ratio: lowest level in a decade - Nationwide inventory-sales ratio fell sharply as consumer goods demand surged. Vessels waiting offshore: about 31 vessels - Current number of ships queued offshore, down from crisis peaks. Peak queued vessels: well over 100 - At the worst point, more than 100 vessels were waiting off the port. Daily cargo movement: about 200,000 units - Current average cargo moving off the port into the U.S. interior each day. Shanghai port efficiency: 85-90% of normal - Soroka estimated Yangshan Deep Sea Port remained largely functional during lockdowns. Container ship fleet utilization: 5,000 container ships worldwide; less than 0.5% in shipyards - He said essentially the entire global container fleet is deployed. Dock dwell time at peak: 11-13 days - Containers sat on docks for long periods during the worst congestion. Dock dwell time now for truck cargo: about 4 days - Current dwell time for roughly two-thirds of cargo leaving by truck. Rail dwell time now: about 6.5 days - Current dwell time for cargo waiting on rail, still above normal. Desired rail dwell time: about 2 days - Soroka said rail-bound cargo should clear much faster under normal conditions. Warehouse/storefront dwell time now: about 8.5 days - Current dwell time for cargo sitting off-dock at warehouses and storefronts. Desired warehouse dwell time: about 3.5 days - Target dwell time for warehouse/storefront cargo. Retail holiday sales growth: 8.5% - He credited improved cargo flow with strong holiday retail sales. Retail sales year: best in U.S. history - Soroka said the year-end retail sales outcome was the best on record. Cyber intrusion attempts: 40 million per month - The port’s cybersecurity operations center blocks attempted intrusions each month. Cyber partnerships: 43 organizations - Organizations participating in the cyber resilience effort with the port. Jobs open nationally: 11.4 million - Used to illustrate ongoing labor shortages across the economy. Warehouse wages: $25/hour vs. $12/hour pre-pandemic - Used to show how labor costs have risen sharply for warehouse workers. Driver's licenses issued in California: more than 640,000 - Referenced in discussion of truck-drayage labor supply. Regular port drayage callers: 9,000 - Number of regular truck callers doing port drayage work. Port-related GDP share: roughly 9% of U.S. GDP - He said 29 West Coast ports handled by the employers/dock workers cover this share. Import/export customers: 200,000 companies - Annual companies using the Port of Los Angeles for imports and exports. Import-side customers: 125,000 companies - Companies on the import side alone. Largest customer market share: less than 5% - No single company has more than 5% market share at the port.

Pivotal Quotes: "we're in the bottom of the fifth right now" — Gene Soroka: He used a baseball analogy to say the port has recovered substantially, but work remains. "If I really had to select just one, it would be how long a container sits at this port before it moves to its next node." — Gene Soroka: He identified dwell time as the single best indicator of port and supply-chain health. "The most significant, serious connection between what's going on between Russia and Ukraine and the port is the cyber risk." — Gene Soroka: He said cyber threats are the key operational spillover from the war for the port.

Implications: Listeners should see supply chains as improving but still fragile. The biggest watchpoints are dwell time, labor availability, rail capacity, and cybersecurity. Better data-sharing and workforce investment will be crucial for resilience and inflation control.

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