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Sticky Inflation. Cheap Volatility. A Less Predictable Fed. Why Aren’t Markets More Worried?

This month on Last Call, Kevin Muir, Aahan Menon, Ben Hunt and Brent Kochuba break down the market through four lenses: macro, inflation data, narrative and options positioning. They examine whether midterm election volatility is underpriced, why inflation may be more demand-driven and persistent th

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Executive Summary: The episode covers a cross-section of market risks: Kevin Muir argues midterm-election volatility is underpriced; Aihen Minnan says inflation remains sticky because it is broad-based and demand-driven; Ben Hunt says Fed credibility has deteriorated sharply after a policy communication reset; and Brent Kachuba shows options data implying investors are complacent, under-hedged, and positioned for a rally unless a surprise shocks markets.

Main Topics: Midterm-election volatility is underpriced (Priority: 5/5): Kevin Muir makes the case that SPX volatility around the midterms is too cheap relative to history and to the political risk of a contested, high-stakes election period. Inflation remains sticky and demand-driven (Priority: 5/5): Aihen Minnan uses breadth and demand/supply decomposition to argue that most inflation pressure is still coming from demand, not temporary supply shocks, implying persistence above the Fed’s target. Fed credibility and narrative breakdown (Priority: 5/5): Ben Hunt says the Fed’s credibility narrative has deteriorated rapidly after Warsh’s Jackson Hole-style communication and subsequent Treasury jawboning, reversing earlier gains. Options positioning suggests complacency (Priority: 4/5): Brent Kachuba interprets low implied volatility and low put ownership as evidence the market is not pricing much risk and is positioned to drift higher unless a shock occurs. Jackson Hole and the end of forward guidance (Priority: 4/5): The hosts debate how the Fed’s reduced use of forward guidance changes market behavior, likely increasing uncertainty and short-dated volatility around meetings. NVIDIA and event-driven positioning (Priority: 3/5): Brent highlights that post-earnings positioning shows heavy call interest and a likely resistance zone near higher strike levels, with options markets signaling limited upside beyond certain levels.

Key Arguments: Kevin Muir argues that midterm-election volatility is mispriced because current implied moves are below prior midterm periods, despite elevated political uncertainty and a potentially contested election environment. Muir says investors do not need to be right on the election outcome to benefit; simply owning volatility into the event may pay as risk gets bid higher ahead of the midterms. Aihen Minnan argues inflation breadth matters more than the headline rate: roughly 70% to 80% of PCE components are still above the Fed’s 2% target, which implies persistent inflation. Minnan’s decomposition suggests demand-driven inflation is the dominant force, while supply shocks are a smaller, more temporary contributor. He also argues that even if inflation is viewed as an oil/supply shock, persistent oil increases tend to flow into core inflation and pressure the Fed to stay restrictive or hike. Ben Hunt argues the Fed’s credibility narrative broke after a press conference that signaled talk without action; in his view, credibility once broken is hard to restore and would require more than rhetoric. Hunt says this credibility damage is compounded by Treasury actions and broader policy interventions, creating a larger narrative of financial repression and market management rather than market-led pricing. Brent Kachuba argues the options market is underpricing event risk: implied vol is low, put ownership is light, and the market wants to rally unless an event creates a repricing shock. Kachuba notes that around major events, especially Fed meetings, options can act like a tax because implied volatility gets expensive; however, when the market is complacent, sudden shocks can punish short-vol positions. The hosts suggest the end of forward guidance means more uncertainty around Fed meetings and potentially more short-end and equity volatility, though the market currently appears to be ignoring that risk.

Data Points: SPX implied move for the day: 38 handles - Brent Kachuba noted this as the zero-DTE straddle around Warsh’s speech day. SPX options implied vol for Monday expiration: 7% - Kachuba cited this as extremely low and indicative of complacency. Fed meeting odds: 55% hike / 45% no hike - Hosts discussed current market pricing for the next meeting. Midterm-day implied move (2022): 1.8% - Aihen Minnan’s discussion of historical implied volatility around midterms. Midterm-day implied move (2018): 1.25% - Compared with current pricing, showing higher historical event risk. Midterm-day implied move (current): 0.9% - Minnan argued current pricing is too low versus history. Midterm-day implied move (2014): relatively low - Cited as an older low-vol midterm comparison. Midterm-day implied move (2010): same as today - Used to show that current pricing has precedent but may still be too low given today’s risks. PCE components above 2%: 70% to 80% - Minnan said breadth remains broadly above the Fed’s inflation target. Demand-driven inflation measure: 3.31 - Shown as materially above target and the dominant source of inflation. Supply-driven inflation measure: 0.38 - Shown as a much smaller contributor than demand-driven inflation. Treasury/Inflation nowcast: running in the 4s - Minnan said their inflation nowcast implies bond exposure should be avoided. Average inflation nowcast this year: 3% to 4% - Minnan said this has kept the model bearish on bonds. Trump approval rating: lowest since Nixon, apart from Nixon three days before resignation - Kevin Muir used this to argue political risk heading into the midterms is high. NVIDIA stock price area discussed: 225-226 - Brent Kachuba referenced this as the stock’s approximate trading level post-earnings. NVIDIA call resistance band: 250-275 - Kachuba said options positioning suggests heavy call supply and resistance in this zone.

Pivotal Quotes: "The market is just ignoring the potential that this could get heated." — Kevin Muir: On why midterm-election volatility appears underpriced. "What we're seeing is that the demand-based drivers of inflation are basically enough on a standalone basis to keep us above the Fed's target." — Aihen Minnan: On why inflation may remain sticky even if supply shocks fade. "Once you break it, I mean you can glue a teacup back together again, but it's never the same." — Ben Hunt: On the Fed’s credibility narrative after policy communication failures.

Implications: Listeners should expect more event risk than markets currently price: sticky inflation, less Fed guidance, and under-hedged positioning could all create sharper moves in rates and equities, especially around the midterms and Fed meetings.

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