The School of Greatness
The School of Greatness

The #1 Financial Freedom SECRET Rich People WON’T Tell You! | Codie Sanchez

BIG NEWS! Today’s guest, Codie Sanchez, will be speaking at SUMMIT OF GREATNESS in 25 days! Have you saved your tickets yet? Get them before they sell out at lewishowes.com/tickets. Welcome back to The School of Greatness! Today, I’m thrilled to have Codie Sanchez with us, a true powerhouse in the w

Featured Speakers

Lewis Howes HostCody Sanchez Guest

Topics Discussed

Episode Summary

Executive Summary: Cody Sanchez argues that money is freedom and that wealth is built by earning more, owning assets, and buying boring, cash-flowing businesses—not by extreme saving or speculative startup bets. The conversation covers wealth mindset, negotiating upside, equity, seller financing, business acquisition, relationships, and the importance of choosing hard things, truth, and personal sovereignty.

Main Topics: Money as freedom and a mindset shift (Priority: 5/5): Cody frames money as a tool for autonomy, control, and personal sovereignty. Her own rebellion against being monitored by her mother’s bank-account tracking became the emotional catalyst for wanting financial independence. Why earning beats saving (Priority: 5/5): She argues that saving alone cannot create wealth and can even reinforce scarcity thinking. The path to riches is maximizing earnings, negotiating pay, and learning to make each dollar more productive. From employee income to ownership and equity (Priority: 5/5): The conversation distinguishes the ceiling of salary-based wealth from the upside of ownership. Cody recommends negotiating bonuses, upside, and equity, but only in real, cash-flowing or operationally understood deals. Buying boring businesses over chasing startups (Priority: 5/5): Cody strongly favors purchasing existing businesses, especially boring, durable ones like laundromats, window cleaning, and trade-service franchises. She emphasizes lower failure rates, seller financing, and recurring revenue. Deal-making education and risk management (Priority: 4/5): She outlines a 10-step acquisition framework covering deal clarity, origination, financing, negotiation, structuring, due diligence, and closing. The emphasis is on learning deal skills before risking capital. Relationships, trust, and choosing hard things (Priority: 4/5): The discussion broadens into friendship, marriage, and team dynamics. Cody values truth, aligned values, and choosing hard experiences with the right people over shallow networking or convenience. Purpose, fulfillment, and leaving a legacy (Priority: 4/5): Cody wants her work to increase personal sovereignty for others and eventually feel like she left it all on the table. She ties fulfillment to effort, impact, family, and living by a self-authored code.

Key Arguments: Saving alone will not make someone rich; increasing income and ownership does. People should maximize earnings first, then use equity or ownership to build wealth. Most wealthy people care more about being rich than looking rich. Startup equity is often overvalued; many startup options are worthless and most startups fail. Existing businesses with cash flow and historical performance are safer wealth-building vehicles than speculative startups. Seller financing and creative financing can help ordinary people buy businesses without needing all cash upfront. Laundromats, trade services, and recurring-revenue businesses are attractive because they are boring, resilient, and scalable. The best deals require learning to negotiate, structure, and do due diligence before buying. Strong relationships require shared values, truthfulness, and clear expectations; business and friendship should be intentionally separated. Success should be pursued without shame; money can expand freedom and enable future charity and impact.

Data Points: People who negotiate salary: 30% - Cody says only about 30% of people will ever negotiate their salary proactively. Startup failure rate: 90% - She repeatedly cites that roughly 90% of startups fail. Businesses that reach $1M revenue: 10% - She says only about 10% of businesses ever reach $1 million in annual revenue. Businesses that reach $10M revenue: 0.4% - She states that only 0.4% of businesses ever reach $10 million in revenue. Average startup founder pay: $60,000/year - She says the average startup founder makes about $60,000 a year after years of low or no pay. Average small business margins: 15% to 30% - Used to explain that $1 million in revenue may translate to much less profit. Example laundromat revenue: $67,000/year - Cody cites her first laundromat as producing this amount of revenue. Example laundromat purchase price: About $100,000 - Approximate cost of her first laundromat acquisition. Bigger laundromat revenue: $3 million/year - She says their biggest laundromat business later reached about this revenue. Laundromats success rate: About 90% - She describes laundromats as having a high success rate compared with other small businesses. SBA loan failure rate for business acquisitions: Single digits - She notes that SBA loans used to buy businesses typically have failure rates in the single digits. Time to learn deal-making: 60 to 90 days - She recommends spending this long learning how to do deals before buying a business. Businesses sold using seller financing: 60% - She says 60% of all businesses are sold using seller financing. Women/men and happiness threshold: $500,000 - Cody says life gets easier and people are statistically happier after reaching $500,000.

Pivotal Quotes: "Money is freedom. The more money you have, the more you get to exert your will on the world." — Cody Sanchez: Her core definition of wealth and autonomy. "You can only save your way to zero." — Cody Sanchez: Her argument that saving alone cannot create true wealth. "You need to learn to love the game." — Cody Sanchez: Her explanation that wealth-building requires embracing the process of business and money-making.

Implications: Listeners are encouraged to treat money as a path to independence, prioritize income and ownership, and favor durable cash-flow businesses over hype. The episode argues that financial literacy, deal skills, and values-aligned relationships are key to long-term freedom and impact.

🔓 Sign Up for Unlimited Episode Search

About The School of Greatness

Lewis Howes is a New York Times best-selling author, 2x All-American athlete, keynote speaker, and entrepreneur. The School of Greatness shares inspiring interviews from the most successful people on the planet—world-renowned leaders in business, entertainment, sports, science, health, and literature—to inspire YOU to unlock your inner greatness and live your best life.

View all episodes from The School of Greatness