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The IPO Lottery, Planning for Wellness, and Talking Cents (EP.134)

Skewed Factor IPO Investing and Financial Well-being Episode 134: Show Notes. Many IPOs start with a bang, resulting in high first-day closing prices that attract retail investors. Today we unpack new and established research to explore how the hottest IPOs compare with average market returns. We op

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Benjamin Felix, Cameron Passmore, and Dan Bortolotti Host

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Executive Summary: Episode 134 of the Rational Reminder Podcast returns to an 'us episode' format, blending personal updates with deep dives into IPO performance and holistic well-being. The hosts analyze why investing in IPOs is detrimental for most retail investors due to skewness preferences and poor long-term returns, and introduce a new 'Talking Sense' segment to stimulate financial discussions. They also explore the non-financial determinants of well-being, arguing that true financial advice must integrate social, temporal, and human capital to maximize overall life satisfaction. Key data points include the average 50% first-day IPO pop in 2020 and the 17.5% three-year underperformance of IPOs relative to the market.

Main Topics: New Podcast Segment - Talking Sense (Priority: 2/5): Hosts introduce a new segment using 'Talking Sense' cards from the University of Chicago Financial Education Initiative to prompt thoughtful, non-technical financial discussions. They pick two cards: 'Imagine you have a factory that can make anything; what would you make?' and 'What is something priceless to you?', demonstrating unscripted, personal reflections to encourage listener engagement. IPO Investing and Market Distortions (Priority: 5/5): The hosts critique IPO investing for retail investors, citing research showing IPOs underperform the market by 17.5% over three years when excluding the first-day pop. They explain that institutionally-allocated shares lead to retail investors overpaying due to a preference for skewness (lottery-like returns), and discuss recent waves of IPOs in 2020 and the distortion of S&P 500 prices by index funds. The 'Range' Book and Generalists vs. Specialists (Priority: 3/5): Ben Felix reviews 'Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World' by David Epstein, arguing that early specialization is often unwarranted and that generalists excel in 'wicked' environments with delayed feedback. The discussion contrasts the 10,000-hour rule with evidence that breadth of experience fosters resilience and problem-solving. Holistic Well-Being in Financial Planning (Priority: 5/5): The hosts argue that financial advice should extend beyond portfolio management to encompass well-being across multiple capitals—financial, human, social, and temporal. They cite Meir Statman's framework of utilitarian, expressive, and emotional benefits of capital, and discuss findings that social comparison significantly impacts well-being, while income above certain thresholds boosts life evaluation but not momentary happiness. Tesla, Bubbles, and Market Anomalies (Priority: 3/5): The hosts compare Tesla's $800 billion valuation to the entire TSX ($3.2 trillion CAD) and the S&P 500 energy sector. They reference Robert Shiller's bubble checklist and highlight stories of retail investors using margin to fund lifestyles based on single-stock fortunes, questioning the sustainability of such trends. Cash Holdings in TFSAs (Priority: 2/5): A BMO survey found that the average TFSA balance increased 9% to ~$31,000, but cash remains the primary holding for 38% of balances. Only 49% of respondents know TFSAs can hold investments beyond cash, suggesting education gaps persist.

Key Arguments: Investing in IPOs is detrimental for retail investors because they typically cannot access the first-day 'pop' (average 20% historically, ~50% in 2020), and subsequent returns trail the market by 17.5% over three years. The hottest IPOs have the worst post-IPO performance due to retail investors' skewness preference. Financial well-being (maximizing wealth) is distinct from overall well-being (funding a meaningful life). Advisors should consider non-financial capitals—social, temporal, human—to enhance clients' life evaluations, as income improves well-being (Cantril ladder) even if it doesn't increase daily happiness beyond $75,000. Social comparison dramatically affects well-being: a neighbor's income increase reduces a person's well-being as much as an equal decrease in their own income, but only if they socialize with that neighbor. IPO waves occur rationally due to low expected returns and high prior uncertainty about profitability (not just mispricing), making post-IPO returns poor for new investors. This was particularly pronounced in 2020.

Data Points: Average First-Day IPO 'Pop' in 2020: ~50% - Much higher than the historical average of about 20% from 1980 to 2020 Three-Year Buy-and-Hold Return of IPOs (1980-2018) vs. Market: -17.5% (underperformance) - Measured from the closing price on the first trading day, excluding the first-day pop Tesla Market Capitalization: ~$800 billion USD (~$1 trillion CAD) - Roughly one-third of the entire TSX market cap ($3.2 trillion CAD) Average TFSA Balance Increase in 2020: +9% to ~$31,000 - From a BMO survey of 1,500 Canadians; 38% of balances held in cash Income Threshold for Life Evaluation vs. Emotional Well-Being: $75,000 (happiness plateau); $100,000+ (life evaluation keeps rising) - Kahneman & Deaton 2010 paper: high income improves life evaluation but not emotional well-being beyond $75k U.S. Small Cap Value Index (IJS) vs. S&P 500 (6-month returns to Jan 22): Small cap +43%; S&P 500 +19% - Recent outperformance of small cap value may reflect correction of index fund distortions

Pivotal Quotes: "The lottery-like payoff is not what you want. I mean, just like buying lottery tickets is not a good financial decision. Like, you're going to lose money, except there's a tiny chance you won't. I guess you're buying hope." — Ben Felix: Discussing why retail investors overpay for IPOs due to skewness preference, comparing it to lottery tickets. "You think about what good is expertise? ... It's that it's knowing base rates. They can't predict the future, but they understand base rates. So, I think incorporating well-being evidence, broadly speaking, into financial decisions is extremely, extremely important." — Ben Felix: Arguing that financial advisors should integrate well-being research to improve client outcomes beyond portfolio optimization. "If you enjoy listening to the podcast, I would encourage them to check out the community because the quality of the discussions there are really, really high." — Cameron Passmore: Promoting the Rational Reminder online community as a source of thoughtful, high-quality financial discussions.

Implications: This episode underscores the importance of looking beyond narrow financial metrics—IPO returns are poor for retail investors, and well-being depends on more than wealth. For listeners, the key takeaway is to avoid the hype of IPOs and meme stocks, and instead focus on holistic planning that incorporates social, temporal, and emotional capital. For the industry, it reinforces the need for advisors to expand their scope to behavioral and life coaching.

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A weekly reality check on sensible investing and financial decision-making, from three Canadians. Hosted by Benjamin Felix, Cameron Passmore, and Dan Bortolotti, Portfolio Managers at PWL Capital.

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