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The Long-term Potential of the Growth Markets

Michael Sherwood, a vice chairman of Goldman Sachs and co-CEO of Goldman Sachs International, discusses the economic potential of Growth Markets around the world, including India and China. This podcast was recorded on March 4, 2015. This podcast should not be copied, distributed, published or repro

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Executive Summary: Michael Sherwood argues that growth markets remain attractive but require patience, selectivity, and political awareness. He highlights India’s reform momentum and infrastructure potential, China’s long-term liberalization story, the drag from Russia, Brazil and oil exporters, and Europe’s need for structural reforms and SME credit. Goldman’s strategy is to invest for the long term in markets where relationships and local presence matter.

Main Topics: Growth markets as an asset class (Priority: 5/5): Sherwood frames emerging/growth markets as a long-term asset class that can deliver incremental returns, but only for investors willing to accept political and economic risk. India’s reform-driven opportunity (Priority: 5/5): India is presented as a major upside story thanks to a reform-minded government, strong demographics, and investment opportunities in infrastructure, consumer, e-commerce, defense, and technology. China’s steady but slow reform path (Priority: 5/5): China is still seen as the key growth engine for Goldman Sachs, with strong growth expectations, gradual liberalization, and long-term financial-sector opening outweighing slowdown concerns. Russia and Brazil under pressure (Priority: 4/5): Russia is constrained by geopolitical conflict and frozen capital markets, while Brazil is weakened by inflation, leverage, and the need for structural reforms despite long-term potential. Europe’s structural reform gap (Priority: 4/5): Sherwood says ECB action has helped, but Europe needs labor reform, better SME credit, and deeper capital markets to support growth, especially in France and Italy. Oil price effects across growth markets (Priority: 3/5): Lower oil prices help importers like India and China but hurt exporters differently depending on currency depreciation and domestic cost adjustments, with Russia partially offsetting oil weakness through currency devaluation. Goldman Sachs’ long-term market strategy (Priority: 4/5): The firm plans to keep investing prudently, maintain local presence, and build businesses over years rather than chase short-term cycles in growth markets.

Key Arguments: Growth markets have become a major global asset class because they now contribute a large share of world growth and can deliver superior returns despite risk. India is exciting because a reformist government, better bureaucracy, and infrastructure spending could unlock growth across consumer, internet, defense, and renewable energy sectors. China remains the most important growth-market opportunity for Goldman Sachs; reforms will be gradual, but liberalization of capital markets and SOEs should support long-term growth. Western banking in China is still constrained by joint ventures and limited ownership, but market opening should improve liquidity and benefit both investors and the domestic economy. Russia’s investment case is severely damaged by the Ukraine crisis and political uncertainty, though consumer and technology businesses had shown promise before the conflict. Brazil needs monetary tightening and structural reform to address inflation, debt, and leverage, even though it remains the region’s largest economy. Europe’s recovery depends less on ECB policy and more on labor reform and better financing for SMEs, which are central to the region’s employment base. Goldman’s strategy is to stay invested through cycles, because meaningful market positions in growth markets are built over 10-15 years, not quarters.

Data Points: Growth markets share of world growth (1990s): 10–20% - Sherwood contrasts earlier growth-market contribution with the last decade. Growth markets share of world growth (last decade): 30–40% - He says growth markets have accounted for a much larger share of global growth more recently. India population: Enormous - Used to emphasize the scale of India’s consumer and labor market opportunity. India demographic profile: Very young population - Cited as a key advantage for long-term growth. China growth forecast: 6%–7% - Goldman’s expected growth rate for China this year. Russia currency depreciation: 50%–60% - Used to explain how weaker domestic costs can offset falling commodity prices. Coal price decline: 20% - Example of resource-sector pressure in Russia. Domestic expenses decline in Russia: 40%–50% - Offsetting factor for Russian resource producers. Europe workforce in small firms: 50% of workforce - Sherwood notes the importance of SME financing in Europe. U.S. financing done away from banks: 70%+ - Used to contrast with Europe’s bank-dependent funding structure. Europe financing through banks: 70%+ - Shows Europe’s greater reliance on banks compared with the U.S. Brazil macro starting point: Weak debt-to-GDP and fiscal deficit levels - Explains why Brazil needs medium-term adjustment. China investment horizon: 10–15 years - Sherwood compares China’s market-building timeline to Goldman’s earlier Europe expansion.

Pivotal Quotes: "You had to dream that there was political stability. You had to dream that there weren't massive economic problems in these countries in order to get the growth rates that would make them growth markets." — Michael Sherwood: Explaining the risk-return tradeoff inherent in growth market investing. "The markets and the optimism is ahead of actually the reforms that they've got done." — Michael Sherwood: On India, warning that investor enthusiasm may be running ahead of actual policy execution. "China has to liberalize more. I do think China is going to be the country that's really going to drive our growth." — Michael Sherwood: Summarizing Goldman’s long-term strategic focus in growth markets.

Implications: Investors should favor countries with credible reform momentum and tolerate long timelines. China and India look most promising, while Russia and Brazil remain high-risk. In Europe, SME credit and structural reform are critical for sustained recovery.

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