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The Secret To Becoming A High Achiever & Embracing Adversity EP 1310

Jason Feifer is the editor in chief of Entrepreneur magazine, author of the upcoming book Build For Tomorrow (out September 2022), a startup advisor, and host of the podcast Build For Tomorrow, a show about the smartest solutions to our most misunderstood problems.

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Lewis Howes HostJason Pfeiffer Guest

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: Jason Pfeiffer argues that long-term success comes from treating change as inevitable, separating identity from job titles, and continually pursuing “opportunity set B” beyond immediate duties. He uses stories from entrepreneurship, media, and history to show that panic is natural but temporary, and that experimentation, service, and reinvention create durable growth.

Main Topics: Change as a Four-Phase Process: Pfeiffer frames change as moving through panic, adaptation, new normal, and 'wouldn't go back.' The key variable is speed: people who progress quickly adapt and grow, while those who stay stuck in panic struggle. Identity Beyond Job Titles: He warns against tying identity to tasks or roles like 'newspaper reporter' or 'magazine editor.' Instead, he recommends defining yourself by a stable mission or core sentence that survives role changes. Opportunity Set A vs. Opportunity Set B: Opportunity Set A is what is required by the job; Opportunity Set B is what is available beyond expectations. He argues that real growth, future usefulness, and reinvention come from choosing B consistently. The 'But Really' Exercise: Pfeiffer suggests looking beyond the obvious purpose of a project to its deeper function. Understanding the 'but really' clarifies mission, creates resilience, and helps people pivot when circumstances change. Short-Term Pain for Long-Term Gain: He emphasizes investing now in actions that may not pay off immediately—like launching new channels, learning skills, or capping a hit product—to build future resilience and opportunity. Reconsidering the Impossible: Using examples like the pandemic, Lena’s Wigs, and the phonograph, he shows that disruption forces people to reconsider ideas they previously dismissed, often revealing hidden opportunities. Service Over Self-Protection: Whether speaking on stage or building media, he argues that focusing on serving others reduces fear and strengthens performance, while self-focused thinking increases anxiety and limits impact.

Key Arguments: Change should be welcomed before it is forced; waiting until a crisis makes adaptation more painful and less strategic. People commonly equate change with loss, then extrapolate that loss into catastrophic thinking; this blind spot prevents them from seeing gain. A stable identity should be grounded in mission or values, not in a specific role, title, or mechanism of work. Growth comes from pursuing work beyond your formal job requirements, because Opportunity Set B builds future capability and unexpected payoffs. Projects should be evaluated by their deeper 'but really' purpose, not only their immediate output or first-order result. Initial efforts may not generate money or visible success, but they reliably generate learning, skills, and future options. Great entrepreneurs are willing to reconsider assumptions, cut successful products when necessary, and prioritize sustainability over short-term wins. Serving others—rather than protecting ego—is the best way to reduce fear, communicate value, and perform well under pressure. The greatest lie about success is that it is fully repeatable through the same circumstances; in reality, people grow by adapting to new ones. Keeping track of past change cycles gives people evidence that panic passes and good outcomes can follow reinvention.

Data Points: Change phases: 4 - Pfeiffer says everyone moves through panic, adaptation, new normal, and 'wouldn't go back.' Spanish YouTube channel views per month: Over 5 million - Lewis Howes cites the performance of a new Spanish-language channel launched as a long-term investment. Spanish YouTube channel subscribers: 300,000+ - The channel grew substantially within about a year. Foodsters product shift time: About 1 year - The company had been preparing a new line before the pandemic forced a reversal of plans. Dogfish Head best-seller cap: 50% of sales - Sam Calagione capped the sales of his 60-minute IPA to prevent overdependence on one hit product. Dogfish Head 90-minute IPA alcohol by volume: 9% - Pfeiffer explains the original beer as a strong IPA. Dogfish Head 60-minute IPA alcohol by volume: 6% - A lower-ABV version created after the distributor requested a more drinkable product. Dogfish Head company sale price: $300 million - Pfeiffer cites this as the eventual outcome of the strategy to diversify beyond the hit product. Public speaking class duration: 1 year - Lewis Howes says he took a weekly public speaking class to overcome stage fear. First on-stage speaking attempt: 2015 - Pfeiffer describes his first solo stage talk at an entrepreneur event in Scottsdale, Arizona. Freelance pitch timeline to Washington Post placement: 9 months - He used freelancing to move beyond his local newspaper job and build national bylines.

Pivotal Quotes: "You have to change before you must. Don't wait for somebody else to force you to change." — Jason Pfeiffer: He summarizes his core thesis on proactive reinvention and long-term thinking. "Opportunity set B is always more important, infinitely more important." — Jason Pfeiffer: He contrasts required work with optional growth work that creates future opportunities. "In order to be good at something, you have to be willing to be bad." — Ryan Reynolds: Pfeiffer cites this as a lesson about learning new skills and tolerating beginner discomfort.

Implications: For listeners and businesses, the episode argues for proactive reinvention, identity resilience, and continuous skill-building. The future belongs to people and brands that adapt early, serve others, and treat disruption as a source of advantage.

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Lewis Howes is a New York Times best-selling author, 2x All-American athlete, keynote speaker, and entrepreneur. The School of Greatness shares inspiring interviews from the most successful people on the planet—world-renowned leaders in business, entertainment, sports, science, health, and literature—to inspire YOU to unlock your inner greatness and live your best life.

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