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The Time One Of Our Co-Hosts Launched His Own Cryptocurrency

Joe Weisenthal is a co-host of the Odd Lots podcast. He also once launched his own cryptocurrency called Stalwartbucks. On this week's episode, we speak with Guan Yang, who along with Weisenthal helped launch Stalwartbucks in the early weeks of 2014. We talk about how they did it, what they lea

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Bloomberg HostJoe Weisenthal GuestTracy Alloway Guest

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: The episode is a retrospective on a 2014 DIY cryptocurrency, Stalwart Bucks, created by Tracy Alloway, Joe Weisenthal, and Guan Yang as a playful Dogecoin fork. The conversation explores how they cloned existing code, tried to create real-world utility through dinner invites, wrestled with mining, pricing, exchange listings, and crypto adoption, and ultimately concluded that exchanges, social networks, and user experience are crucial to a currency’s value.

Main Topics: Origins of Stalwart Bucks (Priority: 5/5): Joe Weisenthal and Guan Yang explain how the idea emerged in late 2013/early 2014 amid a wave of novelty cryptocurrencies and why they rushed to create their own coin. Technical cloning and launch mechanics (Priority: 5/5): They describe how the coin was built by copying Dogecoin/Litecoin/Bitcoin code and modifying parameters and branding, highlighting how open-source crypto made rapid imitation easy. Utility, adoption, and dinner-based demand (Priority: 5/5): The founders tried to support the currency by requiring Stalwart Bucks for entry to recurring dinner events, an early attempt to give the token real-world value and create demand. Mining, supply design, and UX problems (Priority: 4/5): The discussion covers mining mechanics, the decision to denominate coins in billions, and the awkward user experience that came from large units and rushed implementation. Exchange listings and price discovery (Priority: 5/5): They reflect on a listing on a tiny exchange pair and how market value depended on thin trading and layered conversions through Doge, Bitcoin, and dollars. Lessons about crypto adoption and social networks (Priority: 4/5): The speakers argue that exchanges, liquidity, and community are fundamental to crypto value, and that coins function partly like social networks whose worth depends on shared belief.

Key Arguments: Crypto projects can be launched quickly by cloning open-source code, but speed and novelty do not guarantee adoption. Attempting to create real-world utility—such as dinner access—was a serious though small-scale effort to establish demand and a price floor. Denominating coins in billions created a gimmicky but confusing user experience that likely hurt legitimacy. Thin exchange liquidity and a single trading pair made valuation extremely fragile and mostly theoretical. A currency's value depends heavily on community belief and network effects, making crypto function like a social network. The professionalization of exchanges has been central to making crypto more accessible and legitimized over time.

Data Points: Bitcoin price decline: below $6,000 per coin - Mentioned at the beginning as the backdrop for the crypto discussion. Bitcoin record high: about $18,000 - Referenced as the January peak before the subsequent decline. Coin creation date: January 2014 - When Stalwart Bucks was launched. Dinner frequency: about 4-5 per year - Recurring Stalwart Bucks dinners held over time. Total dinners held: about 10-11 (later said close to 20) - The hosts estimate how many dinners they organized across years. Miner concentration: 10-15% - Joe estimates they controlled only a small share of all Stalwart Bucks in existence. Price / mining units: 1 billion increments - They initially planned to mine in huge denominations, causing UX issues. Mining reward later: $1,000 per mining - Joe says the reward schedule later declined to this level. Maximum market cap: about $50,000 - Estimated dollar value of all Stalwart Bucks at peak on the thin exchange. Dogecoin market cap comparison: close to $1 billion - Used to illustrate how large successful meme coins could become.

Pivotal Quotes: "I think that if we had waited even like six days, we could have made a lot of user experience tweaks that might not have saved Stalwart Bucks, but at least given it a slightly better shot." — Joe Weisenthal: Reflecting on the rushed launch and missed opportunities to improve the product. "I think one another sort of sad aspect of this is that the so the original concept was that all these dinners would be at Korean barbecue restaurants and the one that we always went to, Kang Su on 32nd Street, is now closed." — Joe Weisenthal: Linking the project’s social side to the loss of a longtime meeting place. "I think that crypto proponents often talk about how Bitcoin is sort of self-limiting... There’s a limited supply in existence. And in essence, the thing is kind of deflationary." — Tracy Alloway: Summarizing a core crypto narrative and comparing it to Stalwart Bucks' supply design.

Implications: The episode shows that crypto value depends on liquidity, utility, and community more than code alone. It also highlights how exchanges and social coordination can legitimize tokens, while poor UX and thin markets can limit even clever experiments.

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Bloomberg's Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway analyze the weird patterns, the complex issues and the newest market crazes. Join the conversation every Tuesday and Thursday for interviews with the most interesting minds in finance, economics and markets.

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