Tech Wont Save Us
Tech Wont Save Us

The Year in Tech w/ Molly White, Brian Merchant, & Eric Wickham

Paris Marx is joined by Molly White, Brian Merchant, and Eric Wickham to discuss the highs and lows (mostly lows) of this year in tech news.Molly White is the creator of Web3 is Going Just Great and Follow the Crypto. Brian Merchant is my co-host on System Crash, a new podcast we’re hosting. He’s al

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Executive Summary: This year-end Tech Won’t Save Us roundtable framed 2024 as a year of accelerating tech power, especially around AI hype, crypto’s political comeback, Elon Musk’s consolidation of influence, and the growing nexus between Silicon Valley and the American right. The panel also highlighted transportation/EV setbacks, the failed promise of the Vision Pro, and rising concern over data centers and platform degradation.

Main Topics: AI hype, slop, and infrastructural costs (Priority: 5/5): Brian argued AI remained the industry’s central obsession, but mostly produced low-value output, degraded search and platforms, and enormous energy/resource demands, while companies kept doubling down despite shaky economics. Crypto’s political spending and legitimization (Priority: 5/5): Molly described 2024 as a breakout year for crypto’s concentrated push into U.S. politics, with industry money and narrative-building aimed at influencing Congress and the incoming administration. Elon Musk, state power, and the rightward shift in tech (Priority: 5/5): The panel treated Musk as the year’s defining tech figure: a political actor, platform owner, and corporate power broker increasingly aligned with Trump and authoritarian policy projects. Tesla, EV competition, and the return of self-driving hype (Priority: 4/5): Paris focused on transportation, noting Tesla’s brand and sales weakness, competition from Chinese EV makers, and renewed hype around robotaxis/self-driving as part of the broader AI narrative. The Vision Pro and failed spatial-computing hype (Priority: 3/5): The discussion used Apple’s headset as a symbol of high-cost tech products that drew curiosity but limited adoption, with the device seen as expensive, unsettling, and commercially weak. Platform degradation and search/social media decline (Priority: 4/5): The panel discussed Google’s worsening search experience, AI overviews, X/Twitter’s deterioration under Musk, and how users now navigate more friction, slop, and misinformation. 2025 watchlist: regulation, data centers, and news funding (Priority: 4/5): Looking ahead, guests identified the Canadian online news act, AI’s business model, crypto deregulation, and the expansion of data centers as major issues to monitor in 2025.

Key Arguments: AI’s main effect in 2024 was to make the internet worse rather than transform it productively; most use cases were slop, with limited benefits for coding and some work tasks. The AI industry still lacks a convincing business model, yet keeps attracting massive investment and forcing its products into search, media, and enterprise tools. Crypto’s political strategy matured from lobby-style influence into large-scale campaign spending and public narrative management, signaling long-term ambitions beyond the 2024 election. Musk’s influence now spans platform control, political donations, government access, and corporate leverage, making him more dangerous than in previous years. The growing alliance between Silicon Valley figures and far-right politics is not accidental; it reflects a deeper convergence between tech capital and authoritarian governance. EV competition is no longer just about Tesla's weakness; Chinese manufacturers are becoming serious global competitors, exposing the limits of U.S. auto and transport hype. The Vision Pro exemplifies how monopoly tech can force attention onto products that are novel but not widely useful or culturally appealing. Google’s search monopoly allowed it to degrade a core web function with AI overviews that are often inaccurate, illustrating the cost of concentrated market power. Tech leaders’ rhetoric about free speech, decentralization, and anti-establishment values collapses when it conflicts with profit, control, or political goals. Data center expansion is emerging as a major political and environmental battleground as AI and cloud companies dramatically increase electricity, water, and infrastructure demand.

Data Points: OpenAI valuation: $157 billion - Brian cited OpenAI’s historic valuation as evidence of continued AI investment frenzy. OpenAI last funding round: almost $7 billion - Brian referred to one of the largest startup funding rounds ever. OpenAI annual loss forecast: almost $6 billion - Brian said the company was on track to lose nearly the amount it raised, underscoring AI’s unsound economics. Google search market share: about 90% of users - Brian argued most search users are stuck dealing with degraded Google results and AI overviews. Elon Musk net worth: around $400 billion - Eric used Musk’s wealth to emphasize his power and scale of influence. Worst person in tech vote: Elon Musk 71.3% vs Peter Thiel 28.7% - Paris announced the annual contest winner after voting closed. Crypto political spending: about $200 million - Molly said the industry poured huge sums into the 2024 election and could quickly recoup it. Canadian journalism deal: $100 million - Eric discussed Google’s promised payment under Canada’s Online News Act. OpenAI/AI investment and compute costs: billions in capital and energy use - The panel emphasized the scale of AI infrastructure and its environmental footprint. Vision Pro sales: fewer than 500,000 units globally - Paris noted Apple’s headset sold far below expectations and saw high return rates.

Pivotal Quotes: "the internet is like what 20% shittier" — Brian Merchant: Brian summarized the everyday user-facing impact of AI-generated slop and degraded search/platform experiences. "it's like this mountain of shit" — Eric Wickham: Eric described Elon Musk’s accumulated portfolio of harmful behavior when arguing he deserved worst-person status. "what if we all woke up?" — Paris Marx: Used early in the episode as a reaction to an alarming political story, reflecting the show’s tone of disbelief at tech-policy developments.

Implications: Listeners should expect more AI degradation, deeper tech-right political entanglement, and escalating fights over data, labor, news funding, and infrastructure. 2025 could intensify the harms rather than resolve them.

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Silicon Valley wants to shape our future, but why should we let it? Every Thursday, Paris Marx is joined by a new guest to critically examine the tech industry, its big promises, and the people behind them. Tech Won’t Save Us challenges the notion that tech alone can drive our world forward by showing that separating tech from politics has consequences for us all, especially the most vulnerable. It’s not your usual tech podcast.

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