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Thiel Thinks BlackRock is Woke, Tesla Stalls Out, and a Crypto Crash

Tesla halts production in Shanghai, Grindr flirts with going public, and Democrats get an edge at the FTC. Also, Peter Thiel sets his sights on BlackRock, because apparently it's too woke? Kara and Scott discuss the meltdown in cryptocurrencies and take a listener question about TikTok's m

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Executive Summary: Pivot covers app economy, market volatility, and a long debate on how online dating and phones are reshaping relationships. Kara and Scott spar over Grindr/Match, then tackle FTC power, crypto’s collapse, Peter Thiel/Bill Ackman’s anti-ESG fund, Tesla/Twitter chaos, TikTok’s business model, supply-chain strain, and Ukraine/Russia risks.

Main Topics: Grindr, Match, and the economics of online dating (Priority: 5/5): The hosts discuss Grindr’s SPAC merger and Match Group’s lawsuit against Google, then broaden into how dating apps create transactional behavior and “mating inequality,” with Scott arguing apps concentrate attention among a small share of men and reduce long-term relationship formation. FTC power, Big Tech regulation, and Lina Khan (Priority: 4/5): Kara and Scott debate whether the Democratic FTC majority will enable meaningful antitrust action. Scott argues the agency needs a major case against a dominant platform to regain credibility; Kara is skeptical about what the FTC can realistically accomplish. Crypto and market volatility (Priority: 5/5): They analyze Coinbase’s earnings disappointment, Terra’s collapse, and Bitcoin’s sharp drop, framing crypto as a speculative asset class with no earnings floor. Scott emphasizes diversification and warns that emotions, leverage, and lack of intrinsic value make crypto especially fragile in sell-offs. Peter Thiel, Bill Ackman, and the anti-ESG fund Strive (Priority: 4/5): The discussion centers on Strive Asset Management’s attempt to counter BlackRock-style stakeholder capitalism. Both hosts dismiss the effort as hypocritical, politically performative, and too small in capital to matter against giants like BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street. Elon Musk, Tesla, China, and the Twitter deal (Priority: 4/5): They revisit Musk’s attempt to buy Twitter, concerns about financing and foreign investors, and Tesla’s China slowdown. Scott argues Musk brings volatility rather than value to side projects and should focus on his core businesses. TikTok as the underreported entertainment giant (Priority: 5/5): A listener asks why TikTok’s executives and corporate structure get less attention than Meta or Google. The hosts argue TikTok is intentionally low-profile and is becoming the dominant entertainment platform, especially for younger users with shorter attention spans. Supply chains, housing, and geopolitical risk (Priority: 4/5): Scott cites worsening supply-chain bottlenecks in housing construction and warns that Russia’s rhetoric about nuclear war over NATO and Ukraine is a serious underreported threat. The segment ends on broader concerns about instability and leadership.

Key Arguments: Online dating is creating a winner-take-most mating market, much like digital platforms in e-commerce and social media. The bigger social issue is not just dating apps, but the decline of in-person socializing, phone addiction, and the loss of organic ways people meet. BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street are not truly “woke” in any simple sense; the anti-ESG push is largely branding and political signaling. The FTC needs to bring a major case against a real tech giant to prove it can still police monopoly power. Crypto’s lack of cash flows or intrinsic value makes it highly vulnerable in risk-off markets; leverage and emotion worsen losses. TikTok’s scale and influence are underappreciated because it operates quietly while reshaping media and entertainment consumption. Tesla/Twitter volatility is driven more by Musk’s distractions and financing issues than by durable strategic value. Supply-chain problems are not easing as expected; in some sectors, they are getting worse. Russia’s nuclear threats and the war in Ukraine remain a major global risk that deserves more attention.

Data Points: Grindr valuation: more than $2 billion - Grindr’s merger with Tiga Acquisition Corp was cited as a major dating-app business story. Google Play commission: 30% cut - Match Group says Google’s Android payments policy leaves it hostage to the platform fee. Online relationships share: about one-third pre-pandemic; now possibly over half - Scott used these estimates to argue online dating has become the dominant way people meet. Women’s attention concentration on Tinder: 46 of 50 women focusing on 4 men - Scott cited this as evidence of extreme concentration in mating markets. Top men capturing opportunities: 80% of opportunities - Scott argued the top 10% of attractive men receive most dating opportunities. Male college graduates vs female college graduates: 2 female college grads for every 1 male in five years - Scott used this projection to argue socioeconomic mating gaps will widen. Primary and high school teachers who are women: two-thirds to 90% - Scott linked female-dominated teaching to boys being less championed. Young men risk indicators: 4x as likely to kill themselves; 9x as likely to be incarcerated - Scott cited these figures while discussing male underperformance and instability. FTC oversight: Democrats now have a majority after Alvaro Bedoya’s confirmation - Kara and Scott discussed whether this will empower Lina Khan. Crypto rally return: Bitcoin still up 13x for buyers from five years ago - Scott used this to caution against judging crypto only by the recent drawdown. Bitcoin all-time gain: up 8,000% - Scott referenced Bitcoin’s long-term surge from its early days. Bitcoin peak: almost $62,000 - Kara cited prior highs before the latest drop. Bitcoin recent price: around $20,000 - The hosts described the latest slump as steep and highly volatile. Bitcoin weekly decline: down 20% in the past five days - Used to illustrate the severity of the sell-off. Coinbase IPO price context: $300 to $400, then about $50 - Scott highlighted how far Coinbase stock had fallen from its highs. Crypto market value of TikTok-like comparison: $350 billion in private markets - Scott estimated TikTok’s private-market valuation in discussing its scale. TikTok’s user growth: population of Japan and the United Kingdom - Scott said TikTok recently added users equivalent to both countries combined. Housing supply gap: 1.4 million needed; 900,000 likely to be built - Scott relayed a developer’s view of housing shortages worsened by supply-chain constraints.

Pivotal Quotes: "“the specific crowns out the general”" — Scott Galloway: Scott explains why Grindr’s niche focus is a smart strategy in online dating markets. "“Your emotions are your enemy here.”" — Scott Galloway: Scott warns listeners not to panic-sell during the crypto and broader market downturn. "“what Netflix did to Hollywood, TikTok is doing to Netflix”" — Scott Galloway: He argues TikTok is reshaping entertainment consumption and is undercovered as a business story.

Implications: The episode suggests digital platforms are deepening concentration in dating, media, and finance, while market fragility and geopolitical risk remain high. Listeners are urged to be skeptical of hype, watch regulation, and focus on long-term fundamentals over panic.

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With great power, comes great scrutiny. Every Tuesday and Friday, journalist Kara Swisher and NYU Professor Scott Galloway offer sharp, unfiltered insights into the biggest stories in tech, business, and politics. They make bold predictions, pick winners and losers, and bicker and banter like no one else. From New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

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