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TIP524: Four Wide Moat Stocks for 2023

On today’s episode, Clay breaks down four wide moat stocks to be considered for 2023. If you’ve been following along with the show for quite some time, you know that Warren Buffett loves companies with wide moats. These are the companies that are most equipped to handle the constant disruption occur

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Stig Brodersen HostClay Fink Guest

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: Clay Fink argues that in a bear market investors should focus on steady compounders with wide moats, reasonable valuations, and secular growth. He profiles Alphabet, Amazon, S&P Global, and Sherwin-Williams, emphasizing competitive advantages such as network effects, switching costs, scale, and brand strength, while warning that even great businesses can be poor investments if purchased too expensively.

Main Topics: Why wide-moat businesses matter (Priority: 5/5): The episode opens by defining economic moats as durable competitive advantages that help companies survive disruption and compound value over long periods. Fink stresses combining moat quality with valuation discipline and growth runway. Technology as the source of modern moats (Priority: 5/5): Fink argues that digital businesses often have stronger moats and superior returns on capital than legacy firms, citing value-investing commentary that tech reinvestment and network effects create underappreciated long-term value. Alphabet as a dominant digital platform (Priority: 5/5): Alphabet is presented as a winner-take-all search leader with massive profitability, powerful network effects, YouTube and Google Cloud growth, and a valuation that Fink sees as attractive despite AI disruption concerns. Amazon as an optionality-driven compounder (Priority: 5/5): Amazon is framed as a multi-moat business spanning e-commerce, Prime, advertising, and AWS. Fink highlights scale economies, high switching costs, and management’s willingness to reinvest rather than maximize near-term cash flow. S&P Global as a data-and-ratings oligopoly (Priority: 4/5): SPGI is described as a high-return, sticky, subscription-heavy business with powerful positions in credit ratings, indexes, market intelligence, and commodities data, though its cyclicality makes valuation critical. Sherwin-Williams as a timeless, tech-resistant moat (Priority: 4/5): Sherwin-Williams is portrayed as a durable, long-lived consumer/industrial brand with dense store distribution, contractor loyalty, pricing power, and steady shareholder returns despite a premium valuation.

Key Arguments: Wide moats help companies endure disruption, but valuation still determines whether an excellent business becomes a good investment. Modern technology companies deserve value investors’ attention because digital foundations and network effects can create stronger moats than many legacy businesses. Alphabet’s search and YouTube ecosystems create a winner-take-all dynamic, while Google Cloud adds growth runway; short-term ad weakness from recession may offer attractive entry points. Amazon’s business quality comes from layered monetization: first-party retail, third-party services, Prime, advertising, and AWS, plus scale economies shared and switching costs. S&P Global benefits from an oligopolistic ratings market, sticky subscription revenue, and index licensing, but its cyclical ratings business could compress earnings in a recession. Sherwin-Williams’ moat comes from its store network, contractor relationships, brand loyalty, and ability to save customers time, which supports pricing power and recurring demand. Companies like Alphabet and Amazon may report temporarily depressed earnings because they are reinvesting heavily; current P/E ratios can understate intrinsic value. The best opportunities are often 'wonderful companies at fair prices,' not necessarily the cheapest stocks on a current earnings basis.

Data Points: Alphabet trailing 12-month net income: nearly $67 billion - Used to show Alphabet’s current profitability and strength of moat. Google search market share: 84% - Illustrates Google’s dominant winner-take-all position in search. YouTube trailing 12-month revenue: nearly $30 billion - Shows YouTube as a major and growing monetization engine inside Alphabet. Google Cloud trailing 12-month revenue: over $24 billion - Evidence of Alphabet’s additional growth runway beyond search. Alphabet free cash flow yield: roughly 4% - After adjusting for assumed stock-based compensation and net cash, cited as attractive for a high-quality business. Alphabet search revenue growth (Q3 2022): up 4% year over year - Indicates resilience of core search business during tougher conditions. Alphabet total revenue growth (Q3 2022): up 6% year over year - Shows continued overall growth. OpenAI reported valuation: $29 billion - Mentioned in the discussion of AI disruption and Microsoft investment interest. Microsoft Bing spend: over $15 billion - Used to underscore how difficult it has been to challenge Google in search. Amazon e-commerce sales (2014): $39 billion - Baseline for long-term growth in Amazon’s retail business. Amazon e-commerce sales (2022 est.): around $142 billion - Shows expansion of Amazon’s e-commerce scale. Amazon Prime members: 150 million to 200 million - Membership growth from 2019 to 2021 supporting ecosystem lock-in. Amazon Prime annual cost in U.S.: $139 per year / $15 per month - Shows recurring revenue and customer entrenchment. Amazon advertising revenue (trailing 12 months): over $35 billion - Highlights the importance of Amazon ads as a high-intent monetization channel. Amazon ad growth (recent quarter): 25% - Shows continued momentum in advertising. AWS trailing 12-month revenue: $76 billion - Shows AWS as Amazon’s key profit engine and growth driver. AWS revenue growth (Q3 2022): 27% year over year - Indicates strong cloud demand. AWS operating margin: 30% - Demonstrates high profitability of AWS relative to retail. Amazon stock price at recording: around $97 - Used to argue the stock was down roughly 50% from its highs. Amazon e-commerce market share: around 40% of U.S. e-commerce sales - Shows Amazon’s dominant position in online retail. Walmart e-commerce market share: around 6% - Provides a comparison point to Amazon’s lead. S&P Global ratings business share of operating profits: nearly 57% - Shows dependence on the ratings segment. S&P Global indices business share of operating profits: 17% - Illustrates the value of index licensing. S&P Global market intelligence share of operating profits: 15% - Represents subscription-based analytics/data revenue. S&P Global PLATS share of operating profits: 11% - Commodity and energy data business contribution. S&P Global subscription revenue share: 39% of revenues - Highlights recurring revenue and stickiness. S&P Global PE ratio: around 30 - Signals premium valuation. S&P Global EV/EBIT: around 24 - Used to compare against historical multiple compression during crises. S&P Global share performance (10 years): 22% annualized - Compared with 12% annualized for the S&P 500. S&P Global operating margin: around 50% - Up from around 30% prior to 2016. S&P Global return on capital: north of 20% - Supports moat and capital efficiency claims. S&P Global revenue growth since 2019: over 50% - Shows meaningful post-2019 business expansion. S&P Global operating income growth since 2019: 64% - Evidence of margin and earnings improvement. Sherwin-Williams locations: about 4,800 stores - A key source of distribution advantage. Sherwin-Williams 10-year annual returns: 16% annually - Shows long-term compounding even for a mature business. Sherwin-Williams dividend yield: about 1% - Small but steady shareholder return component. Sherwin-Williams EV/EBIT: around 27 - Indicates premium valuation. Sherwin-Williams return on invested capital: mid-teens - Supports high-quality compounder characterization. Sherwin-Williams repurchase rate: around 1% to 3% per year - Shows ongoing capital returns to shareholders.

Pivotal Quotes: "I want sharks in the moat, I want it to be untouchable." — Clay Fink: Defines the ideal strength of a competitive moat early in the episode. "Google is like a mountain. You can climb it, but you can't move it." — Anonymous ambitious entrepreneur (quoted by Clay Fink): Used to illustrate the durability of Alphabet’s search dominance. "The people making the decision on Amazon are absolutely as much value investors as I was when I was looking around for all these things selling below working capital years ago." — Warren Buffett: Supports the idea that buying high-quality growth companies can still fit a value framework.

Implications: Investors should favor durable compounders with real pricing power and secular growth, but only when valuation leaves room for error. The episode suggests AI, cloud, digital ads, and sticky data platforms may continue reshaping market leadership.

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