Animal Spirits Podcast
Animal Spirits Podcast

Worst Call Ever? (EP.113)

On this week's show we discuss our initial thoughts on Disney+, staying bearish on Netflix since 2002, tech adoption, Google checking accounts, Armageddon calls, the social media era, influencer fraud, new customers from free trades, measurables in advertising, home prices vs. interest rates vs

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: The episode ranges across Disney Plus’s launch, the speed of tech adoption, social media’s public-life effects, market commentators’ bad calls, influencer-driven scams, marketing efficiency, housing affordability, work-life experiments, and investor behavior. The hosts mix humor with skepticism, arguing that modern platforms reward speed, attention, and transparency while also amplifying fraud, performative commentary, and short-lived outrage.

Main Topics: Disney Plus launch, content strategy, and Disney breakup talk (Priority: 5/5): They discuss Disney Plus’s 10 million first-day signups, the Mandalorian, the value of releasing one episode at a time, and whether Disney’s market power justifies anti-monopoly scrutiny. The hosts are enthusiastic about the app and think original scripted content will be needed to retain users. Acceleration of technology adoption and social media velocity (Priority: 5/5): The episode argues that tech adoption now happens far faster than in the past because of the internet and social platforms. They contrast historical diffusion of technologies with rapid adoption of Facebook, Uber, TikTok, and Disney Plus, and note that tweets and public reactions can rise and disappear in minutes. Social media, cancel culture, and 'personal IPOs' (Priority: 5/5): Using Eugene Wei’s essay, they frame modern life as billions of people taking their private selves public at scale. They discuss how social media turns everyday thoughts into public goods, increases the risk of backlash, and creates a world where people and brands need media training just to communicate safely. Bad market calls and the incentives of macro pessimism (Priority: 4/5): They critique persistent bearish calls from well-known investors and analysts, especially around Netflix, Ray Dalio-style macro warnings, and JPMorgan’s roundup of 'Armageddonist' comments. Their main point is that many loud macro calls are disconnected from how these people actually invest. Fraud, influencers, and the monetization of fear (Priority: 5/5): A Quartz profile of a gold salesman/influencer selling overpriced metals to seniors becomes a case study in how fear-based marketing and political identity can be used to sell dubious products. The hosts see this as part of a long-running pattern of people being financially exploited. Marketing effectiveness, data, and personalization (Priority: 4/5): They debate whether digital advertising truly works or just retargets people who were already going to buy. One host argues marketing is often better at storytelling than measurement; the other notes that targeted Instagram ads can still successfully move niche products, so the effect is real even if imperfect. Behavior, work, and lifestyle optimization (Priority: 4/5): They cover experiments like a five-hour workday and Microsoft’s four-day workweek test, generally favoring reduced work time and banning distractions. They also revisit the marshmallow test and discuss how self-control, income, and environment shape delayed gratification.

Key Arguments: Disney Plus is strong because it combines a huge library with one-at-a-time releases that encourage anticipation and reduce immediate churn. Big companies will increasingly face 'break up' rhetoric as public skepticism of market power intensifies. Technology adoption is no longer slow and linear; network effects and social media can make products scale almost instantly. Social media has turned ordinary people into public figures without training, making cancel culture and reputation risk much more common. Many famous bearish investors sound persuasive but often make calls that do not align with their actual portfolios. Some marketing is ineffective or redundant, but targeted digital ads can still work when they reach the right audience at the right time. Fraudulent, fear-based selling remains a durable business model, especially when aimed at emotionally vulnerable groups like retirees. The marshmallow test is not a clean measure of character; socioeconomic background strongly affects apparent self-control. Lower mortgage rates have offset some housing-price increases, making the total monthly burden less extreme than raw home-price comparisons suggest. Reducing work hours can improve productivity when companies eliminate distractions and unnecessary meetings.

Data Points: Disney Plus first-day signups: 10 million - The hosts cite Disney’s launch as evidence of rapid platform adoption. MarketWatch tweet backlash: Deleted after being ratioed - They discuss a tweet suggesting people should invest subscription savings instead of spending on streaming. TikTok adoption: Reached 1 billion users faster than any prior platform - Used to illustrate how quickly modern platforms scale. Twitter test on deleted tweet: 25 seconds - They mention a tweet being deleted almost immediately after poor engagement. Netflix shares after bearish call: $7 to $13 in 2012; about $305 later - Used to show how wrong a long-running bearish analyst call was. Hedge fund allocation to alternatives: 33% in 2019 vs. 40% in 2018 - Institutional investor allocations declined year over year. Private equity allocation to alternatives: 25% in 2019 vs. 18% in 2018 - Private equity gained share as hedge funds lost share. Gold-selling business revenue: $58 million - Quartz lawsuit reporting on metals.com revenue from July 2017 to July 2018. Gold-selling influencer followers: 233,000+ Instagram followers - Shows the scale of his audience and reach. Schwab new brokerage accounts: 142,000 in October - They cite this as evidence that zero-commission trading can drive account growth. Schwab account growth vs. prior month: 31% more than September - Supports the claim that free trading was a strong acquisition lever. Young people wanting to be influencers: 86% - A Bloomberg/Morning Consult survey about career aspirations among ages 13 to 38. Survey sample size: 2,200 people - The influencer aspiration statistic came from this survey. Mortgage rate in 1985: 12% median; 12.3% average in decade example - Used in the Bill Shatner housing-cost debate. Home value in 1985: $85,000 median - Compared with today’s home prices to assess affordability. Today’s home price: $315,000 median - Used in the same mortgage affordability comparison. Monthly payment comparison: $874 vs. about $1,475 - Shows that lower rates partly offset higher home prices. Five-hour workday: 8 a.m. to 1 p.m. - A consulting firm experiment described in the Wall Street Journal. Four-day workweek productivity boost: 40% - Microsoft Japan test results discussed on the show. Marshmallow study sample issue: Fewer than 90 children originally - They note the small, nonrepresentative Stanford sample in the original study.

Pivotal Quotes: "One way to understand the impact of these public social networks on humanity is to think of this as an era in which humans took their personal thoughts and lives public at scale." — Eugene Wei (quoted by hosts): Used to explain social media as a kind of universal public listing or 'IPO' of personal life. "The Twitter what's happening prompt box is like a command line with the power to, among other things, obliterate your life." — Eugene Wei (quoted by hosts): Discussed in the context of cancel culture, reputation risk, and online backlash. "Instead of being a broken record, we let To think of our bear thesis as more of a broken clock. We're bound to be right over time." — Michael Pachter (quoted by hosts): Cited as an example of an analyst rationalizing years of wrong bearish calls on Netflix.

Implications: Listeners should expect faster product adoption, faster backlash, and more performance-chasing in markets and media. The episode suggests skepticism toward loud macro forecasts, while favoring transparency, original content, and better-designed work and financial systems.

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Animal Spirits is a show about markets, life, and investing. Join Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson as they talk about what they're reading, writing, listening to and watching. Look for new episodes every Wednesday morning. See our disclosures here - https://ritholtzwealth.com/podcast-youtube-disclosures/

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