Accidental Tech Podcast
Accidental Tech Podcast

212: Meatspace Windows

* Follow-up: USB-C iPhone 8 * Ming-Chi Kuo pours cold water on Apple USB-C notions * Anker bricks * Questionable USB-C-to-A adapter * Chromebox for Meetings * MacBook Boost case * Windowing on iOS * Steve Troughton-Smith writes Finder-like app for iOS * Apple does not see the humor * This is why iPa

Featured Speakers

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa Host

Topics Discussed

Episode Summary

Executive Summary: The discussion moves from everyday troubleshooting and generational tech skills to a broad critique of Apple’s hardware and platform strategy. The hosts debate Lightning vs USB-C, then pivot into iPad windowing, app review restrictions, power-user automation, and Apple’s declining position in education versus Google’s Chromebook momentum. Throughout, they argue Apple is prioritizing tight control and product uniformity over flexibility, innovation, and market-specific needs.

Main Topics: Generational debugging and computer troubleshooting: The show opens with a story about a child unable to solve a simple Caps Lock/keyboard issue, used to illustrate how hands-on troubleshooting skills are learned through necessity and repeated real-world debugging. USB-C vs Lightning and Apple’s connector strategy: The hosts analyze rumors about future iPhones retaining Lightning while using USB-C for charging, debating regulatory pressure, connector size, durability, and whether Apple should adopt USB-C fully. USB-C ecosystems, docks, and hardware tradeoffs: Discussion expands to chargers, cable ecosystems, USB-A longevity, and the awkwardness of add-on battery/port sleeves for laptops, highlighting how removing ports pushes users toward external accessories. iPad windowing and App Store restrictions: A major segment examines Stephen Troughton Smith’s iPad windowing demo and Apple’s apparent rejection of overlapping windows, using it to argue that Apple blocks meaningful UI experimentation by third parties. Multi-device workflows vs desktop-style multitasking: The hosts compare the increasingly common 'multi-iPad' or multi-device setup to traditional desktop windows, arguing that multiple physical devices are often just 'steampunk windows' and that a large-screen windowed interface is more powerful. Programming, automation, and the power-user continuum: They discuss Workflow, Pythonista, HyperCard, macros, and scripts as steps along a continuum from manual work to true programming, arguing that Apple should support middle-tier automation more fully. Apple in education and enterprise: The conversation closes with Apple’s weakening position in schools versus Chromebooks and the contrasting success of Macs in enterprise, suggesting Google’s low-friction school hardware won where Apple’s offerings became less competitive.

Key Arguments: Real troubleshooting skill comes from fixing things in the real world, not from knowing the theory in advance. Lightning remains likely on iPhones, but USB-C would be better long-term for standardization and ecosystem flexibility. Apple’s move toward thinner laptops and fewer ports creates a market for ugly add-on docks and sleeves, showing unmet user needs. The iPad could benefit from richer windowing, but Apple’s App Review rules prevent third parties from exploring that design space. Physical multi-device workflows solve some problems, but they are a clumsy substitute for a powerful virtual desktop/window model on large screens. Workflow, Automator, HyperCard, and scripting all represent steps on the path to programming; many users are already programmers in practice even if they deny it. Apple’s education position has weakened because Google’s Chromebooks are cheaper, easier to manage, and more aligned with school needs. Apple still markets to education and pros, but its actual product decisions suggest it is increasingly optimized for consumer profit rather than those segments.

Data Points: USB-C rumor clarification: All three new iPhones launching in the second half of 2017 will support fast charging while still retaining the Lightning port - Ming-Chi Kuo report referenced in the discussion about iPhone 8 connector rumors App Store rule: Rule 258 - Apps that create alternate desktop/home screen environments or simulate multi-app widget experiences will be rejected Chromebook market growth in education: Google from near-zero to about 4x Apple and Microsoft by 2016 - NYT article discussion about device shipments to schools Pingdom global coverage: More than 70 global test servers - Sponsor segment describing worldwide monitoring coverage Away carry-on battery: Can charge an iPhone 5 times - Sponsor segment describing the built-in USB battery in Away luggage Away trial period: 100 days - Sponsor segment describing the luggage return policy Away warranty: Lifetime warranty - Sponsor segment describing repair/replacement coverage Pricing comparison: SE30 around $4,300 with educational discount; $6,500 without educational discount; current-dollar equivalent cited around $8,600 to $13,000 depending on configuration - Discussion comparing old Mac school pricing to modern Chromebook economics New York Times education comparison period: 2012 to 2016 - Time range of the chart showing Apple flat and Google rising in school device sales USB-C charger port count complaint: One-port USB-C chargers vs multi-port USB-A chargers - Discussion about lack of a multi-port USB-C equivalent to popular Anker-style chargers

Pivotal Quotes: "If you've ever fixed anything on a computer, this fixes a surprising number of things." — John: Explaining why unplugging and replugging the keyboard solved the Caps Lock bug "This is why the iPad can't have nice things." — Marco: Commentary on Apple App Review discouraging overlapping windows in an iPad windowing demo "You're just reinventing Windows in meat space." — John: Comparing multi-device iPad setups to traditional desktop window management

Implications: Apple’s closed approach may keep products polished, but it risks ceding experimentation, education, and pro workflows to cheaper, more flexible ecosystems. The next wave of productivity may depend on whether Apple allows more user control and richer multitasking.

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