Accidental Tech Podcast
Accidental Tech Podcast

265: Simon Says Volume Five

* Follow-up: * Onboarding and GDPR * GDPR for web developers * Slack 💔 IRC * Alexa can solicit follow-up * Siri drama at The Information * Daring Fireball writeup * Crumb-proof keyboards * MacBook Air refresh? * The Talk Show #219: Podcast Amnesia * MacBook fantasies * Casey's USB-C → SD Card R

Featured Speakers

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa Host

Topics Discussed

Episode Summary

Executive Summary: The episode ranges across privacy regulation, voice assistants, Apple’s keyboard and laptop strategy, WWDC rumors, a Texture acquisition, and listener questions. The hosts debate GDPR and cookie banners, criticize Slack’s disappearing IRC gateway and Alexa’s follow-up mode, and repeatedly argue that Apple’s laptop lineup is incoherent and needs more ports, better screens, and reliability fixes. They also discuss Migration Assistant, dialog wording, completionism in games, and the value of CS fundamentals for developers.

Main Topics: GDPR, privacy prompts, and bad legislative design: The hosts discuss GDPR as a catalyst for onboarding/privacy screens, compare it to cookie consent popups, and argue that tech laws often target outdated implementations rather than underlying privacy harms. Voice assistants and the limits of follow-up mode: They critique Alexa’s five-second follow-up mode as a hack that still fails to understand compound commands or natural conversational context, arguing the real need is deeper intent parsing and context awareness. Apple laptop design: keyboards, ports, screens, and product-line confusion: A long discussion focuses on the butterfly keyboard’s reliability, keyboard layout, possible waterproofing, lack of ports, USB-C/Thunderbolt tradeoffs, MagSafe, SD cards, and the incoherent naming/segmentation of the MacBook line. WWDC 2018 rumors, event art, and live show plans: They review the WWDC date/location, speculate about Marzipan and the event art, and clarify that the artwork is branding rather than a reliable product hint. They also announce ATP Live and related conference plans. Siri reporting drama and Apple internal politics: The hosts dismiss a report about Siri’s problems as mostly internal-company blame shifting and say they care more about the product’s quality than who at Apple is at fault. Migration Assistant, backups, and transfer methods: A listener asks about moving data from an old Mac Pro to a new Mac via Migration Assistant. The advice is to prefer Ethernet or target disk mode over Wi‑Fi and always back up first. Developer experience, dialog wording, and completionism in games: They debate whether polite UI labels like 'Thanks' are helpful or annoying, and discuss how much of a completionist they are in games like Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey.

Key Arguments: GDPR may be the broader legal catalyst for consent/onboarding screens, but laws targeting specific technologies often age badly and become annoying boilerplate. Privacy regulation should focus on the underlying problem—tracking and data control—rather than cookies alone or any one technical mechanism. Alexa’s follow-up mode does not solve the real UX problem; users want compound commands and conversational context, not a short post-command listening window. Apple’s current laptop strategy prioritizes thinness and aesthetics over ergonomics, durability, and user needs. The MacBook lineup lacks a coherent story in terms of naming, features, pricing, and port selection. Adding more USB-C ports, or hybridizing with MagSafe/SD/other legacy ports, would materially improve usability more than the current minimal design. A sealed or membrane-covered keyboard could improve reliability and possibly enable spill resistance, but Apple’s aesthetic priorities may prevent such changes. In software, interface conventions matter; forcing users to read cute labels like 'Thanks' adds friction unless the personality is part of the product’s core value. Migration Assistant is best used over a fast wired connection; Wi‑Fi is least desirable, and target disk mode can be more reliable and faster. Having a deep understanding of computing fundamentals is not required to write apps, but it becomes increasingly valuable when debugging, scaling, or building complex systems.

Data Points: GDPR enforcement date: 25 May 2018 - The hosts note when the regulation becomes enforceable in the EU. Alexa follow-up window: 5 seconds - Alexa will keep listening for another command for five seconds after a request. Alexa battery/standby-like listening indicator: blue ring stays lit - Used to show the device is still listening during follow-up mode. Backblaze free trial: 15 days - Sponsor offer for a fully featured trial. Backblaze price: $5/month per computer - Unlimited cloud backup pricing mentioned in the ad read. Backblaze data under management: 500+ petabytes - Company scale mentioned in the sponsor segment. Aftersocks discount code: $30 off with ATP30 - Promo for Trex Air bone-conduction headphones. Trex Air weight: 1.06 ounces - Presented as a comfort/portability feature. Trex Air battery life: 6+ hours - Continuous music and phone-call usage. Trex Air standby time: 20 days - Advertised battery standby spec. Jamf Now free tier: 3 devices free - Business device management sponsor offer. Jamf Now pricing: $2/month per additional device - After the first three free devices. WWDC dates: June 4–8 - Conference dates announced in San Jose. WWDC ticket price: $5 - ATP Live/AltConf ticket price mentioned. Apple acquisitions cited annually: 35 companies - Used to illustrate Apple’s frequent small acquisitions. Current Apple laptop turnaround example: 13 different laptops over 3 years - Marco discusses personal use and keyboard exposure. MacBook Air screen age: Introduced in 2010 era - Referenced as old compared with newer Retina and PC displays. Migration Assistant transfer example: 1 terabyte / 1 gigabit - Used to estimate transfer time by rough data-rate math. Crash Course Computer Science length: 40 videos, 10–15 minutes each - Recommended educational series on computing fundamentals.

Pivotal Quotes: "Making laws is hard, making laws about technology is doubly hard." — John: On why privacy regulation often targets the wrong technical details. "What we actually need is for these voice systems to become smarter and to recognize compound commands." — John: Critiquing Alexa’s follow-up mode as a superficial fix. "Apple these days is really good at designing beautiful things that kind of suck to use." — John: Summarizing the core complaint about modern Apple hardware design.

Implications: Listeners should expect continued tension between privacy, convenience, and product design. The episode predicts incremental fixes from Apple and voice assistants, but argues that real progress requires better fundamentals: more thoughtful laws, smarter intent parsing, and hardware designed for usability, not just appearance.

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