Accidental Tech Podcast
Accidental Tech Podcast

311: Mutually Assured Destruction

* Follow-up: * 👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻 screwed up "finsta" * Debate over the prevalence of the stage lighting problem * Silence of Siri and other IoT info * Wireless Accessory Config * Does anyone doubt that Facebook is straight garbage? * TechCrunch summary * ReCode recaps Apple's response * Confirma

Featured Speakers

Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa Host

Topics Discussed

Episode Summary

Executive Summary: The episode jumps from Apple ecosystem corrections and HomeKit/Siri behavior to a major discussion of Facebook and Google abusing Apple’s enterprise certificate system, then to Apple’s delayed handling of the FaceTime bug and the frustrations of bug reporting. It also covers Bloomberg rumors about future iPhones/iPads, a new fast local search system in Overcast, and listener Q&A on Mac maintenance, CPU choices, and Twitter usage.

Main Topics: Apple ecosystem corrections and HomeKit/WAC: The hosts correct a prior mistake about Finsta/"spam" accounts and discuss Apple HomeKit room awareness, Siri verbosity, and Wireless Accessory Configuration (WAC) as the mechanism that silently passes Wi‑Fi credentials to accessories. Facebook/Google abuse of Apple enterprise certificates: A major segment dissects how Facebook re-distributed Onavo via Apple’s enterprise program after App Store removal, and how Google did something similar with ScreenWise Meter. The hosts argue Apple was justified in revoking certificates because the companies violated clear internal-use rules. Apple’s FaceTime bug and security-response process: The episode critiques both the severity of the FaceTime spying bug and Apple’s response. The hosts praise the quick server-side disablement of group FaceTime but condemn Apple for failing to route a prior security report properly and for the frustration of radar-based bug reporting. Rumors about future iPhones, iPads, and iOS 13: They review Bloomberg rumors about a new 3D laser camera for AR, possible USB-C testing, iPad Pro upgrades, a cheaper iPad mini, dark mode, CarPlay changes, improved file management, and a new iPad-specific home screen. Overcast instant search and UI design: Marco explains a new search system that keeps a small local cache of popular podcast data to make search feel instant, using popularity, recency, and query/subscription feedback to improve rankings and reduce index size. Listener mail: Mac maintenance, CPU selection, and Twitter habits: The hosts answer questions about whether to open a MacBook to remove dust, how to choose among similar iMac CPUs, and how they manage Twitter usage. They favor caution on hardware maintenance, RAM/storage over CPU, and reduced/curated Twitter use. Personal updates: video projects and tech craftsmanship: Casey discusses publishing a CR-V review video and planning future car videos, while Marco describes the technical fun of building Overcast search and a tiny custom HTML5 video player for the announcement page.

Key Arguments: Facebook’s Onavo and Google’s ScreenWise Meter were not innocent internal tools; they were designed to collect user data, and redistributing them outside the enterprise program was a blatant second violation. Apple’s revocation of Facebook’s enterprise certificate was proportionate because the rules explicitly say enterprise distribution is for internal use only; Facebook knowingly ignored both the App Store and enterprise rules. The FaceTime exploit is less about bugs existing and more about Apple’s failure to act quickly on a well-documented security report through the proper channel. Radar/file-a-bug workflows are too opaque and dismissive, especially when a serious security issue is sent to the wrong queue after being reported correctly first. HomeKit’s value lies in its polished core experience, even if it cannot do as much as rival ecosystems; WAC and room awareness are examples of Apple solving real setup pain points. Search is a critical but underappreciated feature in podcast apps; a small, highly relevant local index plus remote ranking yields a much better user experience. For typical buyers, RAM and storage matter more than CPU differences, since clock-speed deltas within the same family often translate into modest real-world gains. Twitter has become increasingly unpleasant, so both the amount of posting and the amount of attention paid to it are declining, with block/mute becoming more important tools.

Data Points: Apple enterprise misuse: 2 companies - Facebook and Google both used Apple enterprise distribution to ship internal data-collection apps to the public. FaceTime bug reporting delay: about 1 week - A security issue was reportedly sent to Apple product security nearly a week before the public shutdown of group FaceTime. FaceTime response time after press: a couple hours - Group FaceTime was disabled server-side within hours of the story breaking. Overcast local search index size: about 3 megs - Marco said the local podcast search index is only about 3 MB thanks to relevance and ranking optimizations. Search ranking threshold: 3 characters - Overcast falls back to remote search after the third typed character. Photo/video extension: 3 seconds to 6 seconds - Bloomberg rumor says enhanced Live Photos may double in length. 3D camera range: up to 15 feet - The rumored laser-based 3D camera is described as working at room scale rather than Face ID scale. Software size concern: 10 years - The hosts repeatedly joke about Apple taking nearly a decade to improve iPad UI and home screen behavior. Battery/weight spec: 1.06 ounces - AfterShokz headphones were described as weighing just over an ounce. Wireless accessory config: Wi-Fi handoff automation - WAC automates the process of connecting to a device’s temporary Wi‑Fi network to provision credentials.

Pivotal Quotes: "This is the show we're about to do, including this topic." — Host: Opening banter while trying to stop repeating obnoxious remarks before the main discussion. "Apple took away Facebook from my phone." — Host: A hypothetical explaining why Apple may be unable to fully remove Facebook apps without backlash from users. "It’s their swimming pool. And if you're choosing to swim in that pool, shouldn't you have to abide by the rules?" — Host: Defense of Apple’s right to revoke enterprise access after Facebook violated the agreement.

Implications: Listeners get a clear view of how platform control, app distribution, and security reporting intersect. The episode suggests Apple can enforce rules—but also must improve security intake and transparency. It also previews a more capable iPad/iPhone future and highlights how search/UI polish can matter more than flashy features.

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