Episode Summary
Executive Summary: Howard Marks argues that recent bankruptcies and alleged frauds in sub-investment-grade and private credit are not evidence of systemic failure but a predictable byproduct of long good times: easy money, weak diligence, and rising risk tolerance. Using First Brands as a case study, he emphasizes that credit skills, second-level thinking, and early detection matter most when market complacency is high.
Main Topics: Recent bankruptcies and market alarm (Priority: 5/5): Marks opens with the First Brands, Tricolor, and bank disclosures that sparked fears of a broader credit problem, noting the market’s tendency to latch onto a single narrative and extrapolate too far from a few events. Private credit’s rise and limitations (Priority: 5/5): He explains how private credit grew after the financial crisis, benefited from limited bank lending and low rates, and attracted massive capital—yet had not been meaningfully tested until now. Cycles in risk appetite and credit quality (Priority: 5/5): Marks revisits his core thesis that good times breed complacency, lower underwriting standards, and aggressive lending, while downturns reveal the damage through defaults and losses. Fraud as a cyclical phenomenon (Priority: 4/5): He argues that overconfidence, weak due diligence, and abundant capital create fertile conditions for fraud, drawing on Galbraith’s idea of the 'bezzle' and historical banking wisdom. Systemic vs. systematic risk (Priority: 5/5): Marks distinguishes between a system-wide plumbing failure and recurring behavioral mistakes; he concludes current issues are systematic clusters of bad decisions, not systemic breakdowns. First Brands case study and credit analysis (Priority: 5/5): He details alleged receivables duplication, off-balance-sheet financing, and red-flag diligence findings at First Brands, using the case to show how careful mosaic-style research can uncover hidden problems early. Lessons for investors (Priority: 4/5): Marks closes by stressing that defaults are normal, early skepticism is valuable, public debt is easier to exit than private debt, and the coming period may favor renewed prudence.
Key Arguments: The recent cluster of bankruptcies and fraud allegations is concerning, but not proof that the entire private credit or sub-investment-grade market is broken. Private credit became popular because banks pulled back after the GFC, but its long benign run meant it had not been seriously stress-tested. In good markets, investors and lenders become complacent, accept weaker standards, and focus on deployment and FOMO rather than diligence. Defaults and even frauds are normal in credit markets; with thousands of issuers, a few dozen defaults per year is unsurprising. Frauds tend to rise when money is plentiful, oversight is weak, and people are more trusting—conditions common in boom periods. The current episode is systematic, not systemic: it reflects repeated human behavior, not a broken financial plumbing system. First Brands illustrates how off-balance-sheet complexity, receivables financing, and weak controls can obscure real leverage and risk. Good credit investing requires second-level thinking, building a mosaic from many weak signals rather than waiting for one definitive clue. Scale helps research because diligence costs are similar whether investing $50 million or $500 million, allowing deeper analysis over larger exposures. Being early to identify credit problems is crucial because once consensus catches up, prices already reflect the bad news.
Data Points: Private credit capital inflows: About $2 trillion - Marks says roughly this amount flowed into private credit over subsequent years after the sector emerged around 2011. High-yield default rate: More than 2% by value per year - His 47-year experience in high-yield bonds suggests this is a typical annual default rate, with more during crises. Regional bank write-down: $50 million - Zions Bancorp disclosed a write-down on loans after apparent misrepresentations and contractual defaults by two borrowers. First Brands total obligations: $11.6 billion - Bankruptcy filings revealed total obligations at this level, including debt and other claims. First Brands debt disclosed in July: $5.9 billion - This was the debt level disclosed during an earlier financing process, before the bankruptcy picture became clearer. First Brands debt included in obligations: $9.3 billion - Portion of the $11.6 billion total obligations specifically identified as debt. Stock move of alternative asset managers: Down 5%–7% - Shares of some prominent alternative asset managers sold off on October 16 after bank and credit disclosures. First Brands operating history: 6 years - Oaktree flagged that the company had only six years of operating history despite large sales. First Brands annual sales: $5 billion - A red flag noted in diligence: large annual sales despite a short operating history. Bankruptcy/disclosure timing: October 15–16 - Zions and Western Alliance disclosed fraud-related issues on these dates, intensifying market concern.
Pivotal Quotes: "When you see one cockroach, there are probably more." — Jamie Dimon: Used by Marks to frame the market reaction to multiple credit/fraud-related failures. "The worst of loans are made in the best of times." — Howard Marks: A banking adage Marks uses to summarize how booms encourage weak underwriting. "It isn't systemic, but it is systematic." — Howard Marks: Marks’ distinction between a broken financial system and recurring behavioral errors in good times.
Implications: Investors should expect more credit mishaps to surface after years of easy money, but not necessarily a market-wide collapse. The key is stronger underwriting, earlier skepticism, and a preference for more liquid public debt when credit quality becomes uncertain.
About The Memo by Howard Marks
On October 12, 1990, Oaktree Co-Chairman Howard Marks published his first memo to clients. In the decades since, he has periodically released memos reflecting his viewpoint on the investment landscape, as well as more general business insights. On this podcast we'll hear the latest memos by Howard, released in tandem with or shortly after their publication.