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E1069: Alexis Ohanian on Reddit’s crypto origins, turning VC into a team sport at Initialized, improving as an investor, fatherhood & more

1:02 Jason welcomes Alexis Ohanian to the show and asks about the Reddit sale & re-joining for the turnaround 3:39 Why was Reddit "the last website standing" from all of the Web 2.0 sales in the early 2000s? 6:05 History of Reddit Gold, future of micropayments & what will Reddit&#x

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Executive Summary: In this episode of This Week in Startups, Jason Calacanis interviews Alexis Ohanian, co-founder of Reddit and venture capitalist at Initialized Capital. They discuss the early days of Reddit, its eventual sale and resurgence, the importance of community ownership and the inspiration behind Reddit Gold from TotalFark. Alexis shares insights on Initialized Capital's investment philosophy, including the shift toward higher ownership percentages and the 'Avengers' approach to supporting portfolio companies. They explore the future of creator monetization, the intersection of cryptocurrency with community platforms (especially Reddit), and the necessary differentiation between legitimate crypto ventures and ICO scams. The conversation also touches on fatherhood, work-life balance, and the humbling nature of venture investing. A friendly bet from 2013 about self-driving cars is revisited.

Main Topics: Reddit's Early Days and Key Decisions (Priority: 5/5): Discussion of Reddit's founding with Steve Huffman, the $12K investment from Paul Graham and Y Combinator, sale to Condé Nast for $10 million after 18 months, and the importance of threaded comments with voting and user-created subreddits for fostering community ownership and growth. Initialized Capital's Investment Strategy (Priority: 5/5): Alexis explains how the firm evolved from angel-like small ownership percentages to targeting 15% ownership with the first check. He emphasizes the 'Avengers' model where partners with diverse expertise support portfolio companies, and the use of internal software (Folio) to coordinate efforts. Key wins include Coinbase and Instacart. Creator Economy and New Job Categories (Priority: 4/5): Discussion on platforms like Patreon and Substack enabling creators to make a living directly from their audiences. The concept of 'radical delegation' and how technology allows new types of jobs (e.g., YouTubers, mods) that didn't exist a decade ago. Cryptocurrency, ICOs, and Legitimate Use Cases (Priority: 4/5): Separating scams from real value. Alexis notes that Initialized avoided ICOs entirely, investing only in 'boring Delaware C-Corps' like Coinbase, Bison Trails, and Horizon (Skeweaver). They discuss how blockchain can solve real problems around digital ownership, microtransactions, and community rewards (potential Reddit crypto integration). Fatherhood and Work-Life Balance (Priority: 3/5): Personal reflections on being a 'business dad.' Alexis shares tactics like using a time tracker for family time, putting the phone away, and planning one-on-one daddy-daughter trips. He notes how fatherhood has shifted perspectives and made him better at his job. Trusting Founder Instincts and Learning from Mistakes (Priority: 3/5): Alexis admits to failing to trust his instincts about problematic founder dynamics, despite documenting the concerns. He emphasizes the humbling nature of venture investing and the importance of reviewing 'game tape' (records of pitches) to improve pattern recognition.

Key Arguments: Reddit's enduring growth, despite years of product stagnation, stems from giving users ownership over subreddits—a feature Digg didn't replicate. Advertising on user-generated content platforms is hard and limiting; alternative monetization models (virtual goods, crypto) that align with user happiness are superior. Investors should aim for meaningful ownership percentages (15% at seed) to ensure a single outcome can return the entire fund, rather than small bets that require many home runs. Venture capital can be a 'team sport' when partners with diverse expertise are coordinated via software, yielding better support for founders and stronger returns. Many ICOs were frauds that preyed on enthusiasm for entrepreneurship; legitimate crypto investments should be evaluated like any other startup—traction, team, and product. Creator economy models like Patreon allow intimate fan relationships and higher per-dollar support for creators compared to traditional media, and may be recession-resistant.

Data Points: Reddit founding investment: $12,000 - Initial funding from Paul Graham and Y Combinator in 2005. Reddit acquisition price: $10 million - Sold to Condé Nast approximately 18 months after founding. Reddit employee count at turnaround start (2014): 40 - Number of employees when Ohanian returned as executive chairman. Craigslist estimated annual revenue: $1 billion - Whispered figure from job and real estate listings in ~5% of markets. Example creator income threshold: $25,000 - 250 subscribers at $100/year can pay a part-time writer's salary. Initialized first fund ownership target: 4-5% - Early fund moved from less than 1% to 4-5% ownership per deal. Current Initialized ownership target: 15% - Target ownership with first check in seed/pre-seed rounds. Coinbase second investment amount: $1-2 million - Opportunistic follow-on investment by Gary Tan after founder comment about running out of working capital by 9 a.m.

Pivotal Quotes: "Kids spell love, T-I-M-E." — Alexis Ohanian: Reflecting on fatherhood and the importance of undivided attention over quantity of time. "I did not trust my instincts enough with Founders." — Alexis Ohanian: Admitting a key leak in his investing game: not acting on early red flags about co-founder dynamics, despite documenting them. "The game is humbling, right? This game is humbling because you don't know how you did until you're five or six. The things that you think were going to work don't. The things that you were unsure of do." — Alexis Ohanian: On the long time horizon and unpredictability of venture capital outcomes.

Implications: Founders and investors should focus on community ownership and direct monetization over fragile ad models. The line between crypto innovation and scam is stark; diligence matters. VCs can benefit from team-based support models and larger ownership targets. Fatherhood and work-life integration are real concerns even for high-profile entrepreneurs.

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Jason Calacanis covers startups, tech, markets, media, and all the hottest topics in business and technology. He also interviews the world’s greatest founders, operators, investors, and innovators.

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