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Ep. 2403 - Yes, We’re STILL Winning: Trump’s Iran Plan, And What Comes Next

Three days into President Trump’s declared ceasefire, we examine the plan… and discuss what comes next; plus, Trump unleashes on the Grievance Right. Ep. 2403 - - - Click here to join the member-exclusive portion of my show: https://dwplus.watch/BenShapiroMemberExclusive - - - Today's Sponsors:

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Executive Summary: The episode centers on Trump’s Iran ceasefire and the claim that Iran has been militarily shattered and is now negotiating from weakness. The host argues the pause is strategic, meant to secure nuclear concessions, reopen the Strait of Hormuz, reassure markets, and signal resolve to China and U.S. allies, while condemning right-wing and left-wing critics as anti-American or pro-regime propaganda amplifiers.

Main Topics: Trump’s Iran ceasefire as strategic leverage (Priority: 5/5): The host frames the ceasefire not as retreat but as a tactical move: if Iran accepts limits on enrichment and reopens Hormuz, the war can end; if not, the U.S. retains escalation options. Iran’s military and regional degradation (Priority: 5/5): The transcript repeatedly argues Iran’s air defenses, missile infrastructure, command-and-control, proxies, and industrial base have been severely damaged, leaving the regime weakened and desperate. Strait of Hormuz and global economic pressure (Priority: 5/5): Control of the Strait is presented as Iran’s last major leverage point, with implications for oil flows, China’s energy supply, and broader maritime trade stability. Right-wing intra-conservative conflict (Priority: 4/5): Trump and the host attack critics on the right—Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Alex Jones, Megyn Kelly, and MTG—portraying them as hostile to American strength and aligned with weakness or conspiracy thinking. Media, propaganda, and public perception (Priority: 4/5): The episode argues that Iranian, Russian, and anti-Trump messaging is being laundered by influencers and media figures who misread or distort the negotiation and ceasefire. NATO, Europe, and allied burden-sharing (Priority: 3/5): The host uses the Iran episode to criticize European allies and NATO, arguing they benefit from U.S. power while failing to support American security objectives. Cultural and social commentary segment (Priority: 2/5): The later portion shifts to commentary on Melania/Epstein rumors, Nikki Glaser’s relationship views, and a promo for a new documentary-style show on kratom and education failures.

Key Arguments: Iran is not winning; its inability to sustain leverage beyond the Strait of Hormuz is evidence of weakness, not strength. Trump’s ceasefire is described as a win-win: either Iran concedes on the nuclear program and Hormuz, or it exposes itself further and remains vulnerable. The U.S. can pause to negotiate without surrendering core demands, especially no uranium enrichment and safe passage through Hormuz. China has a stake in the outcome because Hormuz is crucial to Chinese oil imports, making the ceasefire a signal to Beijing. Critics on the right are depicted as anti-American or unserious, helping foreign adversaries by repeating propaganda and undermining deterrence. The military campaign is said to have destroyed a large share of Iran’s air defenses, missile storage, command nodes, and industrial facilities, reducing Iran’s capacity to retaliate. European and NATO partners are portrayed as weak, unhelpful, and too willing to free-ride on U.S. security commitments.

Data Points: Targets struck: more than 13,000 - Host cites military updates describing the scale of U.S. strikes on Iran Dynamic targets struck: more than 4,000 - Targets that popped up on the battlefield and were immediately addressed Iranian air defenses destroyed: approximately 80% - Claimed degradation of Iran’s air-defense network Air defense targets hit: more than 1,500 - Part of the reported campaign against Iranian air defenses Ballistic missile storage facilities hit: more than 450 - Host lists destroyed missile-related infrastructure One-way attack drone storage facilities hit: 800 - Claimed destruction of drone storage sites Command and control nodes destroyed: more than 2,000 - Host says Iran’s logistics and targeting networks were degraded Oil price reference: Brent crude spiked into the 115 range and then fell below 100 - Used to illustrate market reaction to ceasefire announcements China oil dependence via Hormuz: 33% of all Chinese oil imports directly from the Strait of Hormuz - Argument for why the ceasefire matters to China Global maritime trade through Taiwan Strait: 20% - Used to warn China about leverage lessons from Hormuz Largest ships by tonnage through Taiwan Strait: about 90% - Illustrates Taiwan Strait strategic importance Hezbollah rockets launched: 6,400 - Host says Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel over the last month Legacy Box users: over 1.5 million families - Sponsor read, not core content Blinds.com discount: $50 off $500+ - Sponsor promotion Quo discount: 20% off first six months - Sponsor promotion

Pivotal Quotes: "This is where you end up with a ceasefire. So when I say that this is a win-win, here is what I mean." — Ben Shapiro: Explaining why the Trump ceasefire is framed as strategic rather than a concession "The reason that you try to seize global trading ... is because you are weak, not because you are strong." — Ben Shapiro: Arguing that Iran’s pressure on Hormuz signals desperation "The president's red lines namely the end of Iranian enrichment in Iran have not changed." — Caroline Levitt: White House clarification of the administration’s negotiating position

Implications: Listeners are being told the conflict hinges on whether Iran gives up nuclear enrichment and Hormuz leverage; if not, pressure may resume. The episode also signals a harder line on intra-right critics and a continued push for U.S. military credibility.

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