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Ep. 413 - The Democratic Tsunami, Or Just Another Ripple?

Virginia turns deep blue – so is it the beginning of a wave, or just an inevitable aftereffect of 2016? Plus, Trump tears into North Korea. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Executive Summary: The episode argues that Republicans' sweeping losses in Virginia reflect a broader anti-Trump backlash, depressed GOP turnout, and energized Democratic turnout rather than a simple failure of one candidate. Shapiro contends that Hillary Clinton’s absence mattered more than Trumpian imitation, warns Republicans about 2018, and notes that Trump’s foreign-policy messaging in South Korea was strong when he stayed on script.

Main Topics: Virginia Republican losses and Democratic gains (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro opens with the scale of Republican defeat in Virginia, noting not only the gubernatorial loss but down-ballot collapse across the state legislature and related Democratic gains in other states. What the Virginia map says about state realignment (Priority: 4/5): He argues Virginia has been trending blue for years, especially in Northern Virginia and suburban areas near Washington, D.C., citing county-level shifts such as Virginia Beach and Loudoun County. Trump's unpopularity versus Trumpism (Priority: 5/5): A central debate in the episode is whether the result was a rejection of Trump personally, a rejection of 'Trumpism,' or simply proof that Trump is unpopular while no coherent Trumpist program actually exists. Hillary Clinton as the hidden factor in 2016 and 2017 (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro repeatedly claims Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election for Democrats and that her absence in 2017 boosted Democratic turnout and made the opposition coalition easier to mobilize. Candidate strategy and the Gillespie campaign (Priority: 4/5): He critiques Ed Gillespie for being too conciliatory and insufficiently aggressive in response to attacks, while rejecting the idea that merely hugging Trump harder would have solved the outcome. Implications for 2018 and Republican governance (Priority: 5/5): The episode warns that Republicans face serious midterm risk if they fail to pass legislation or broaden their coalition, with potential consequences for House control and future Supreme Court nominations. Trump abroad: South Korea and North Korea policy (Priority: 3/5): Shapiro contrasts Trump's domestic political liabilities with his comparatively effective foreign-policy messaging, especially his call to isolate North Korea and pressure China and Russia.

Key Arguments: Virginia’s results were not just a governor’s race loss; Republicans were wiped out down ballot, indicating a broader electoral wave against them. Virginia has been moving left for years, but the magnitude of the shift suggests more than demographic drift alone. Trump’s unpopularity is a major factor because he energizes Democrats while alienating suburban voters and suppressing GOP enthusiasm. The stronger explanation for 2016 and 2017 is that Hillary Clinton was uniquely off-putting and did not mobilize Democratic turnout; her absence increased Democratic participation. The idea that Gillespie lost because he was not sufficiently Trumpian is too simplistic and does not explain down-ballot Republican losses. 'Trumpism' is portrayed as incoherent or nonexistent without Trump himself; Shapiro argues there is no stable program independent of Trump’s personality. Republicans cannot solve their problem by only catering to the Trump base, because that base is too small to win general elections and congressional majorities. Trump’s foreign-policy speeches can be effective when they focus on clear, disciplined messages rather than side controversies. If Republicans do not act legislatively, the backlash could worsen in 2018, threatening the House and future judicial confirmations.

Data Points: Virginia governor's race margin: about 9-10 points - Ed Gillespie lost decisively to Ralph Northam in Virginia. Virginia state legislative seats held by Republicans before election: 66 - Republicans entered the election with a substantial majority in the Virginia legislature. Virginia state legislative seats held by Republicans after election: 47 - Republicans lost major ground down ballot in Virginia. Gillespie's Loudoun County performance in 2014: won by 456 votes - Used to show how dramatically suburban Northern Virginia shifted. Gillespie's Loudoun County performance in 2017: lost by 24,000 votes - Illustrates a large suburban swing against Republicans. House GOP majority: 23 seats - Shapiro warns average off-year losses could erase the majority. Average off-year House loss: around 25 seats - Historical benchmark used to predict risk to Republicans. ABC exit polling on motivation: 2-to-1 against Gillespie among voters casting ballots to oppose Trump - Used to argue Trump was a key turnout driver. ABC exit polling in New Jersey: 3-to-1 - Shows even stronger anti-Trump motivation among voters there. Democratic share of Virginia voters: 41% - Exit-poll figure cited to show Democratic turnout advantage. Republican share of Virginia voters: 31% - Exit-poll figure cited to show GOP turnout lag. Virginia gubernatorial trend since 2009: steadily moved left - Shapiro says the state has been trending Democratic for years. Obama-era and 2016 comparison: Trump lost Virginia by 5 points; Gillespie lost by about 10 - Used to compare Trump and Gillespie performance in Virginia. Trump approval/growth context: 3% to 4% economic growth per quarter - Shapiro notes Trump remained unpopular despite strong growth. Potential House swing in a bad midterm: 30-35 seats - He says the question is whether losses exceed the historical average.

Pivotal Quotes: "Republicans got their asses kicked in Virginia." — Ben Shapiro: Opening assessment of the election results. "That tells you a populist conservative like Trump, who has a strong personality and a strong message, did do better." — Laura Ingraham: Commentary suggesting Gillespie needed to be more Trump-aligned. "Ed Gillespie worked hard, but did not embrace me or what I stand for." — Donald Trump: Trump’s tweet after the Virginia losses, distancing himself from Gillespie.

Implications: Shapiro warns Republicans that Trump alone is not enough to win, and that without legislation or broader appeal, 2018 could bring major losses. For Democrats, the victory is encouraging but not guaranteed if they lean too hard into identity politics or overread the result.

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