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Ep. 655 - The Great Divide

Republicans gain in the Senate, Democrats win the House, and Election 2020 begins! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Executive Summary: Shapiro argues the 2018 midterms were a mixed result: Democrats won the House but underperformed expectations, while Republicans gained Senate seats and held key governorships. He frames the night as evidence that Trump boosts GOP turnout in red states but hurts Republicans in suburban House races, and says both parties are drawing the wrong lessons for 2020.

Main Topics: 2018 Midterm results: divided outcomes (Priority: 5/5): Democrats captured the House by about 34 seats, while Republicans gained roughly 3 Senate seats and held important statewide offices, producing both relief and concern on both sides. Trump's electoral effect: boost and backlash (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro argues Trump helped in close Senate and gubernatorial races by energizing the base, but hurt Republicans in suburban House districts where anti-Trump sentiment was strong. Lessons both parties are misreading (Priority: 5/5): He says Democrats are wrongly treating the night as a mandate for progressive politics, while Republicans are mistakenly reading Senate and gubernatorial wins as proof that Trump-style politics always works. Suburban realignment and future GOP risk (Priority: 4/5): The loss of moderate suburban Republicans is presented as a major warning sign for the GOP because demographic growth is increasingly concentrated in suburbs and metro areas. 2020 map and Trump theory (Priority: 4/5): Shapiro advances a theory that Trump is not a transformational new coalition-builder but a reversion to pre-Obama Republican vote levels, implying 2020 hinges on holding the blue-wall states. Critique of Democratic radicalism and media narratives (Priority: 3/5): He criticizes Democrats for celebrating progressive and intersectional candidates as proof of national viability, arguing the actual winners were mostly moderates in swing districts. Post-election commentary and media skits (Priority: 2/5): The episode includes commentary on Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff, Van Jones, Beto O'Rourke, Andrew Gillum, and a criticism of a Marie Claire column as emblematic of partisan overreaction.

Key Arguments: Republicans can lose the House and still gain Senate seats because the 2018 Senate map heavily favored the GOP and Trump helped in targeted races. Trump has 'coattails' in red-state and base-heavy races, but 'reverse coattails' in suburban House districts where Republicans lost many incumbents. The blue wave was overstated; Democrats won the House, but not by enough to prove a broad national realignment. Democrats are misreading moderate suburban victories as evidence that progressive, identity-based candidates are the future. Republicans are also misreading the results if they assume Trump-only politics can win nationally without suburban appeal. The decisive 2020 battleground remains Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania; Trump likely needs at least Wisconsin to win re-election. Shapiro's broader thesis is that Obama was the statistical outlier and Trump represents a return to normal pre-Obama Republican vote shares. Investigations and House oversight under Pelosi may damage Trump less than Democrats hope, because they can be portrayed as partisan warfare.

Data Points: House seats won by Democrats: 34 - Shapiro says Democrats are on track to win 34 House seats, matching his prediction. Senate seats gained by Republicans: 3 to 4 - He states Republicans picked up three Senate seats, possibly four depending on final counts. Beto O'Rourke margin in Texas: about 3 points - Shapiro notes O'Rourke lost Texas by a shockingly close margin. Florida gubernatorial result: Ron DeSantis victory - Used as an example of Trump-helped Republican overperformance in a battleground state. Wisconsin gubernatorial result: Scott Walker lost by an extraordinarily close margin - Shapiro cites Wisconsin as evidence of Democrats regaining ground in key blue-wall territory. Senate seats Republicans will hold in 2020: 54 - He says the 2018 gains make it very difficult for Democrats to take the Senate in 2020. Electoral votes needed to win presidency: 270 - Explaining how losing Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania would drop Trump below the winning threshold. Electoral votes from Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania: 46 - Used to illustrate the importance of the blue-wall states. Obama-era Republican vote share in Ohio: 47%-48% - Shapiro argues Obama was an outlier because GOP vote share dipped during his elections. Bush-era Republican vote share in Ohio: 50%-51% - Used to support the claim that Trump was a reversion to pre-Obama norms. Obama-era Republican vote share in Florida: 48%-49% - Presented as evidence that Trump restored, not expanded, prior GOP strength. Obama-era Republican vote share in Wisconsin: 42%-46% - Used to contrast Obama’s outlier performance with Trump's later rebound. Trump 2016 vote share in Michigan: 48% - Shapiro says Trump won Michigan with a lower share than Bush once did, framing it as mean reversion. Trump 2016 vote share in Pennsylvania: 49% - Used in the statistical-mean argument about Trump’s 2016 win. Bill for Beto O'Rourke campaign spending: '1 bajillion dollars' - A humorous exaggeration used to emphasize how much money O'Rourke spent despite losing.

Pivotal Quotes: "The blue wave did not break the levy, but I don't want to suggest that Democrats didn't have a good level of success last night." — Ben Shapiro: Assessment of the House outcome and why the night was mixed rather than transformative. "My theory is that President Trump is basically a reversion to the statistical mean." — Ben Shapiro: His central claim about why Trump won key battleground states in 2016 and what that means for 2020. "If Democrats had seen this as we are in recovery here, then it was a very good night for Democrats." — Ben Shapiro: Explains that Democrats won enough to rebuild but not enough to claim a sweeping mandate.

Implications: Both parties are likely to overread the midterms: Democrats may drift further left, and Republicans may ignore suburban losses. For 2020, control of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania remains decisive, while Trump’s ability to keep the base and win suburbs will define re-election chances.

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