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Ep. 61 - Hillary and Bernie Are Legitimately Horrible Candidates

Bernie vs. Hillary at a townhall, Trump vs. Cruz on TV, and leftist Hollywood women have bizarre sexual ideas about Cruz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Executive Summary: Ben Shapiro argues that the Democratic field looked weak and defensive in a town hall, with Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders relying on attacks on Republicans rather than persuasive policy visions. He also criticizes Planned Parenthood’s legal case, media-Democratic entanglement, and Hollywood/liberal culture, while briefly praising classical music and mocking campaign gimmicks and a proposed Bernie-Hillary rom-com.

Main Topics: Democratic Town Hall and Candidate Weakness (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro says the town hall exposed Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders as awkward, unconvincing, and dependent on opposition politics rather than inspiring personal appeals. Media and Democratic Party Collusion (Priority: 4/5): He argues the event’s moderation and broader media ecosystem are biased toward Democrats, citing family and professional ties between media figures and political elites. Hillary Clinton's Trust and Email Scandal (Priority: 5/5): Clinton’s answers on the private email server and paid speeches are presented as evasive, calculated, and evidence of a candidate with weak credibility. Bernie Sanders' Tax-and-Spend Agenda (Priority: 5/5): Sanders is criticized for openly admitting tax hikes, offering unrealistic math on healthcare, and relying on populist rhetoric that Shapiro says is economically incoherent. Planned Parenthood Whistleblower Indictment (Priority: 4/5): Shapiro condemns the indictment of undercover investigators rather than Planned Parenthood staff, framing it as a politically motivated miscarriage of justice. Hollywood, Liberal Culture, and 'Things I Hate' Segment (Priority: 3/5): He attacks left-leaning comedy, Hollywood hypocrisy, Woody Allen/Miley Cyrus, and an upcoming Nat Turner film for what he sees as glorifying militancy and sexualized absurdity. Republican Field, Trump, and Campaign Theater (Priority: 4/5): Shapiro contrasts Trump with Cruz/Rubio/Kasich, calling Trump establishment in disguise and mocking superficial campaign stunts like Rubio’s football video.

Key Arguments: Democrats are not actually running uplifting campaigns; their appeal depends on attacking Republicans and exploiting partisan opposition. Media institutions are structurally intertwined with Democratic politics, which shields Democrats from criticism and amplifies Republican division. Hillary Clinton’s explanations for her email server and paid speeches are evasive and undermine her credibility. Bernie Sanders’ promise to finance expansive programs through taxes is economically unrealistic and politically weak because he openly admits tax increases. The Planned Parenthood case reflects prosecutorial abuse: whistleblowers were targeted while alleged underlying misconduct was ignored. Hollywood and liberal elites celebrate militancy and sexual provocation while misreading history and social change. Trump’s anti-establishment image is inconsistent because he also seeks approval from senators and the political establishment. Rubio-style campaign theatrics reflect the collapse of seriousness in modern politics, where politicians perform for viral attention.

Data Points: Days until Republican debate: 2 - Opening remark about the next GOP debate. Planned Parenthood whistleblower charges: 2 counts - Indictment for using fake IDs and attempting to buy baby body parts. Potential sentence for fake ID charges: 20 years - Shapiro says the whistleblowers could face severe prison time. Hillary Clinton speech fee: $200,000 - He criticizes her Goldman Sachs paid speeches. Bernie Sanders healthcare cost estimate: $19 trillion - Shapiro cites Sanders’ tax plan as requiring massive revenue. Private insurance example given by Sanders: $10,000 per year - Used by Sanders in a hypothetical comparison to justify higher taxes. Tax increase in Sanders example: $5,000 more in taxes - Sanders says taxpayers would pay more in taxes but less in private premiums. Healthcare spending comparison: 3 times more than the British; 50% more than the French - Sanders uses international comparisons to defend single-payer-style reform. Iowa poll lead for Ted Cruz: 7 points - Shapiro references a latest Iowa poll. New Hampshire support for John Kasich: 17 to 20 percent - He notes Kasich’s strong second-place position in New Hampshire polling. Nat Turner rebellion year: 1831 - Historical reference in discussion of the upcoming film Birth of a Nation. Estimated whites killed in Nat Turner rebellion: 55 to 65 - Shapiro cites casualty figures in his historical critique. Black people hanged or murdered afterward: 200 - He says the rebellion led to retaliatory violence and harsher laws.

Pivotal Quotes: "Politics is a game of opposition. Democrats understand this. Republicans don't." — Ben Shapiro: Central thesis about why Democrats appear stronger politically despite his criticism of them. "Yes, we will raise taxes." — Bernie Sanders: Sanders answering directly about financing his healthcare and social programs. "I can see why they gave you this question." — Audience questioner at Democratic town hall: Moment Shapiro cites as evidence the town hall question may have been planted.

Implications: The episode frames 2016 as a fight over authenticity, messaging, and media bias, warning listeners that Democrats rely on attacks and theatricality while Republicans risk losing if they imitate spectacle instead of disciplined opposition.

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