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Ep. 9 - Grading the Democrats

Ben discusses the first DNC debate and grades the candidates. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: The transcript is a highly partisan commentary on the first 2015 Democratic debate, arguing that Hillary Clinton dominated by lying effectively and facing no real challenge from Bernie Sanders or the lesser candidates. It portrays the debate as dull, ideologically far left, and proof that Democrats have embraced socialism and anti-capitalist rhetoric.

Main Topics: Hillary Clinton’s debate performance (Priority: 5/5): Clinton is framed as polished, evasive, and highly effective at turning in a strong debate performance without being meaningfully challenged. Bernie Sanders as a failed challenger (Priority: 5/5): Sanders is presented as energetic but ineffective, especially for refusing to aggressively attack Clinton on corruption and email issues. Democratic Party’s leftward shift (Priority: 5/5): The speaker argues that Clinton and Sanders now sound nearly identical on capitalism, inequality, and government intervention, showing how far left the party has moved. Email scandal and missed attacks (Priority: 4/5): Clinton’s private email server is discussed as a major vulnerability that Sanders and moderators failed to exploit, allowing her to escape scrutiny. The other candidates’ irrelevance (Priority: 3/5): Jim Webb, Lincoln Chafee, and Martin O’Malley are mocked as out of place, confused, or ineffective, reinforcing the idea that the race was really only Clinton vs. Sanders. Media moderation and debate theatrics (Priority: 2/5): Anderson Cooper and the debate format are criticized for failing to press Clinton on controversies, while the national anthem performance and stage behavior are used for comedic ridicule.

Key Arguments: Hillary Clinton won the debate because she is highly practiced at lying convincingly when not contradicted. Bernie Sanders failed as a challenger because he let Clinton off the hook on emails and corruption, effectively helping her. The debate showed that Clinton’s version of capitalism and Sanders’s version of socialism overlap heavily in practice. The Democratic Party has shifted so far left that Clinton, though presented as moderate, is ideologically close to Sanders. Clinton’s strongest advantage is that she can position Republicans as her primary enemies, while Democrats frame foreign threats less centrally. The lesser candidates had no real chance because the debate was functionally about Clinton and Sanders only. Moderators and the media failed to hold Clinton accountable for Benghazi, emails, Libya, Syria, and her policy reversals.

Data Points: Number of major Democratic candidates in debate: 5 - Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Martin O’Malley, Lincoln Chafee, and Jim Webb were on stage. Debate length: 2 hours - The speaker repeatedly describes the event as a long, tedious two-hour debate. Number of lies attributed to Clinton: Two dozen / 27 - The transcript says Clinton told 'no less than two dozen lies' and later claims she told 'something like 27 lies'. Destroyed emails: 30,000 - The speaker says Clinton destroyed 30,000 emails before handing over records. Online poll victories: Won all online polls - The speaker claims Sanders won online polls from MSNBC, Drudge, and Fox News. Estimated top-income federal revenue: $616 billion - The speaker says taxing all earnings above $1 million at 100% would raise $616 billion.

Pivotal Quotes: "the American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails." — Bernie Sanders: Sanders dismisses the email issue during the debate, which the speaker interprets as either a failed attack or an act of protection for Clinton. "We are not Denmark. I love Denmark." — Hillary Clinton: Clinton positions herself as pro-capitalist while still advocating regulation and redistribution. "Hillary Clinton told no less than two dozen lies last night" — Ben Shapiro: The host’s overall verdict on Clinton’s debate performance and honesty.

Implications: The transcript frames the debate as evidence that Democrats are now openly socialist, with Clinton and Sanders converging ideologically. For listeners, it suggests Clinton was strengthened by weak opposition and that media moderation failures helped shape the race.

From the Transcript

But I think the Secretary is right. And that is that the American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails. Thank you. Me too. Okay, and then Hillary proceeded to cackle like a maniac. I mean, it's so obvious how happy she is there. I mean, that's the happiest that she's been since she learned that Bill was sleeping with other women. She's really just overjoyed. I mean, we get to that point, and Hillary starts cackling like a maniac. And then she turns to Sanders and shakes his hand and basically wants to get as physically close to him, physically closer to him than any man she's been with since Chelsea was born. And what's amazing about that, so Jerry. Jeremy's theory, and when I re-watch the clip, I'm not fully convinced. Jeremy's theory is that Bernie Sanders meant that to be an attack on her. That he meant to attack her the same way that Chris Christie sort of attacked Donald Trump and Carly Fiorina back during the second Republican debate. You remember Carly Fiorina and Donald Trump were going at it about their various business records, and then Chris Christie jumped in, he cannonballed in, and he said, Everybody understands that you have great business records, no one cares. This was his big slap at them. So Jeremy thinks that what Sanders was trying to do there.

Bernie Sanders · at 14:33

on that Anderson because when I think about capitalism I think about all the small businesses that were started because we have the opportunity and the freedom in our country for people to do that and to make a good living for themselves and their families and I don't think we should confuse what we have to do every so often in America which is save capitalism from itself and I think what Senator Sanders is saying certainly makes sense in the terms of the inequality that we have but we are not Denmark. I love Denmark. We're the United States of America, and it's our job to rein in the excesses of capitalism so that it doesn't run amok and doesn't cause the kind of inequities that we're seeing in our economy. There's actually appropriate background music when my phone goes off playing the patent theme for Hillary Clinton playing as though she likes America. Hillary Clinton saying that she loves capitalism and she loves small business and it's all great. And you expect this big banner to unfurl behind her because suddenly she doesn't like communism and socialism anymore. But notice they're saying exactly the same thing.

Hillary Clinton · at 11:44

Was written in Cran by a seven-year-old. And he has no ability to upgrade that. So Hillary Clinton ends up winning by default. America loses by default. Hillary Clinton told no less than two dozen lies last night, and we'll go through some of those coming up. But overall, big win for Hillary Clinton. Oh, good lord. This is going to be a long year and a half. I'm Ben Shapiro. This is the Ben Shapiro Show. Isn't it an entire racist media that tends to demonize people who don't care about your feelings? All right, folks, so we survived. It is the day after the big Democrat debate, and I watched it for you so you didn't have to. And no, it was totally not worth the paycheck. It was awful in every respect. It was two hours of people lying, and Hillary sitting there with her well-botoxed face, and it was just egregious. And between Hillary Clinton cackling and Bernie Sanders screaming at the sky like the old socialist loonbag that he is, I mean, he really is the guy who you never want to talk to at parties. He's the guy you walk in.

Ben Shapiro · at 5:00
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