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Ep. 812 - And We’re Back!

Back from vacation, Ben breaks down the Democratic race, Justin Amash’s GOP exit, and border politics! Date: 07-08-2019 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Executive Summary: The episode argues that Joe Biden is weakening in the Democratic primary because his long record and frequent gaffes make him vulnerable to attacks from more radical, less-vetted rivals. Ben Shapiro frames Kamala Harris as the main beneficiary, calling her Biden attacks cynical, while also discussing Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren’s attempts to keep pace. The show also covers Justin Amash leaving the GOP, border policy disputes, and a broader cultural theme that everyday issues are being turned into controversies.

Main Topics: Biden’s collapse in Democratic primary polling (Priority: 5/5): The transcript emphasizes that Biden has fallen sharply from earlier lead levels and is now polling in the mid-20s, with the identity of the second-place candidate unclear across surveys. Biden’s vulnerability versus his general-election strength (Priority: 5/5): The argument is that Biden’s long record, age, and speaking mistakes hurt him in a primary, but his familiarity and moderation make him the strongest Democrat against Trump in a general election. Kamala Harris’s attack strategy (Priority: 5/5): Harris is portrayed as trying to brand Biden as racist on busing and to elevate herself as a civil-rights-style candidate, while Shapiro argues her position is cynical and inconsistent. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren’s alternate lanes (Priority: 3/5): Sanders leans into socialist populism and wage promises, while Warren pushes policy-heavy proposals like housing and maternal health, but neither is shown matching Harris’s rise with key constituencies. Justin Amash exits the Republican Party (Priority: 2/5): Amash’s departure is presented as a symbolic but potentially beneficial event for Trump, since any Libertarian run could split votes in a way that helps Republicans in Michigan. Border politics and decriminalizing crossings (Priority: 4/5): The transcript criticizes Democrats, especially Biden’s opponents, for embracing decriminalization and policies that Shapiro says encourage illegal crossings and catch-and-release. Cultural overreaction and manufactured controversies (Priority: 4/5): A long segment argues that modern media and politics turn ordinary things—air conditioning, the Betsy Ross flag, July 4th military displays, and Ariel casting—into pointless controversies.

Key Arguments: Biden’s early polling strength was always likely to fade because his campaign is built on familiarity rather than novelty, and familiarity also exposes his long record and gaffes. Biden is unusually strong in hypothetical general-election matchups because many voters already know him and see him as a moderate alternative to Trump and the left wing of his party. Harris’s busing attacks are described as cynical because she shares the same practical position as Biden on mandatory busing despite framing him as uniquely racist. The Democratic primary is moving leftward on immigration and health care, making Biden’s comparatively moderate positions look weak inside the party even if they poll well nationally. Harris’s housing grant proposal is criticized as a replay of the logic that contributed to the 2008 mortgage crisis, with the taxpayer bearing the risk. Bernie Sanders’s wage proposals are mocked as arbitrary because he sets numbers without using market-based pricing logic he otherwise rejects. Amash leaving the GOP is framed as unlikely to hurt Trump materially and potentially helpful by drawing votes away from Democrats in a swing state. The larger cultural point is that prosperity and boredom are causing Americans and the media to manufacture outrage over issues that are not truly widespread or urgent.

Data Points: Biden polling average: 26% - Real Clear Politics average cited as Biden’s current support in the Democratic primary. CNN poll for Biden: 22% - One of several polls showing Biden down from earlier levels. Quinnipiac poll for Biden: 22% - Primary polling cited as evidence of Biden’s decline. ABC poll for Biden: 30% - An outlier compared with other recent surveys. The Economist poll for Biden: 23% - Used to show Biden remains below his earlier peak. Biden earlier peak: Mid-30s to close to 40% - The transcript contrasts earlier polling with current numbers. CNN poll for Harris: 17% - Shown as Harris surging into second place after the debate. The Economist/YouGov Harris support: 15% - Recent poll cited for Harris’s secondary standing. The Economist/YouGov Warren support: 19% - A separate survey showing Warren in second place. ABC poll for Sanders: 19% - Shows Sanders still competitive for second place in some polls. Quinnipiac poll for Harris: 20% - Another survey placing Harris in second. YouGov black voter split: 36 to 13 - Biden leading Harris among black voters in one cited poll. Quinnipiac black voter split: 31 to 27 - Biden narrowly ahead of Harris among black voters. Reuters/Ipsos black support trend: Cut in half - Describes Harris cutting into Biden’s black support in some polling. Housing proposal size: $100 billion - Harris’s proposed grants for housing and urban development assistance. Down payment assistance: Up to $25,000 - Part of Harris’s housing proposal for targeted communities. Teacher salary promise: At least $60,000 a year - Bernie Sanders’s stated minimum salary goal for teachers. Home equity/wealth context: 2008 crisis - Referenced as a cautionary example of mortgage policy gone wrong. Air conditioning prevalence: Nearly 90% of American households - Used to argue AC is a normal and widespread modern necessity.

Pivotal Quotes: "I do have to note, really quick off the top, I definitely picked the right week to leave California." — Ben Shapiro: Opening joke about vacation timing and earthquakes in California. "The best thing to be in American politics is a person with no record." — Ben Shapiro: Explaining why Biden is vulnerable and why newer candidates have an advantage. "No, I don't. I think people should have to get in line, but if people are coming because they're actually seeking asylum, they should have a chance to make their case." — Joe Biden: Biden’s answer on border crossing and asylum policy, highlighted as general-election safe but primary-awkward.

Implications: The transcript suggests Biden is losing the primary to a more leftward, identity-driven field, likely benefiting Harris. It also warns that media and politics increasingly reward outrage over substance, distorting both policy debates and cultural discourse.

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