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Ep. 845 - Good Trump, Bad Trump: The Revenge

Trump pursues positive policies, but his wild statements get the headlines; Joe Biden banks on being boring; and we talk about the upsides and downsides of meritocracy. Date: 08-22-2019 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podca

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Executive Summary: The episode contrasts “good Trump” policy wins—immigration enforcement and Title X/Planned Parenthood restrictions—with “bad Trump” media-dominating controversies over Ford, Denmark/Greenland, and rhetoric that feeds the chaos narrative. Shapiro argues Trump’s volatility helps Democrats and Biden, while the media amplify the frenzy and ignore policy successes.

Main Topics: Trump’s immigration rule and Flores settlement changes (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro praises the administration’s new detention rule as a way to end catch-and-release incentives, keep families together in humane conditions, and reduce illegal border crossings. Title X / Planned Parenthood funding restrictions (Priority: 5/5): The show argues Trump’s new rules correctly stop federal family-planning money from indirectly subsidizing abortion and force recipients to separate abortion services from taxpayer-funded care. The “good Trump, bad Trump” framework (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro frames Trump as a contradiction: strong on policy but self-sabotaging through impulsive public comments that dominate the news cycle and obscure accomplishments. Trump vs. Ford and California fuel standards (Priority: 4/5): Shapiro criticizes Trump for attacking Ford over its deal with California, saying business leaders are rationally hedging against future policy uncertainty rather than defying him personally. Trump vs. Denmark over Greenland (Priority: 4/5): He argues Trump’s spat with Denmark over buying Greenland is unnecessary diplomatic theater that reinforces instability and distracts from stronger policy achievements. Media narratives and 2020 politics (Priority: 5/5): Shapiro says the press and Democrats are pushing a dual narrative that Trump is unstable and the economy is weak, while Biden benefits from a boring, reassuring contrast. Democratic field weaknesses and Biden’s strategy (Priority: 4/5): Biden’s campaign is described as a competence-and-normalcy pitch anchored to the Obama years, while other Democrats like Cory Booker, Bernie Sanders, and Jay Inslee are portrayed as unserious or failing.

Key Arguments: Trump’s immigration regulation is portrayed as a necessary fix to the Flores settlement’s 20-day limit, which incentivized families to cross illegally in order to be quickly released. The administration’s detention policy is defended as both enforcement and humanitarian reform because it aims to keep children with parents in humane facilities rather than force separations or release into the country. Planned Parenthood and Title X recipients should not receive taxpayer support if they insist on abortion referrals or abortion-integrated operations; the speaker argues money is fungible and federal funds indirectly subsidize abortion. Trump’s public outbursts damage his own political standing by making him appear chaotic, especially to suburban voters who may like his policies but dislike the tone. Ford’s agreement with California is framed as a rational business hedge against regulatory uncertainty, not an ideological attack on Trump’s deregulatory agenda. The Greenland/Denmark fight is treated as a needless distraction that creates diplomatic drama without clear strategic payoff. The media’s portrayal of Trump as uniquely unstable is said to be selective and hypocritical because Democrats and Obama used similar “they’re talking down the economy” rhetoric in the past. Joe Biden’s strongest lane is not policy innovation but appearing boring, stable, and familiar compared with Trump’s volatility. The Democratic field is weakening around more extreme or impractical ideas, and even candidates like Bernie Sanders are retreating from rigid positions to court unions and moderates.

Data Points: Flores settlement detention limit: 20 days - The rule Trump seeks to replace had capped family detention for migrant children at 20 days. Policy timeline mentioned: 48–72 hours - Shapiro says Trump had produced multiple major policy moves in the previous two to three days. Planned Parenthood/Title X funding: $60 million - He says Planned Parenthood effectively withdraws from the program because it refuses the new restrictions while keeping federal money. Title X share claimed by Planned Parenthood: 40% - The HHS website says Planned Parenthood claims to serve 40% of Title X recipients in the country. Job revisions: 500,000 fewer jobs - MarketWatch and revised figures indicate the U.S. created half a million fewer jobs since 2018 than previously reported. Economy weakness benchmark revision: largest downward revision since 2009 - The jobs data revision is described as the biggest downward revision since the recession era. Typical revision size: about three times larger than usual - The annual benchmark revision was said to be far larger than normal. Democratic field polling threshold: under 1% - Jay Inslee is mocked for never rising above 1% in the polls. Event attendance: about 3,000 people - Shapiro says roughly 3,000 attendees showed up for Daily Wire Backstage the prior night. Family separation/processing concern: automatic visa risk - He claims delayed processing can effectively result in automatic visas and encourage overstays.

Pivotal Quotes: "Come here and we will lock you up." — Ben Shapiro: He summarizes the deterrent logic behind the new immigration rule aimed at family migration. "We know in our bones this election is different." — Joe Biden (ad narrator): Biden’s new campaign ad emphasizes normalcy, urgency, and the contrast with Trump. "If this is a referendum on Trump's volatility, he's going to lose." — Ben Shapiro: Shapiro’s central political warning about Trump’s self-defeating public behavior.

Implications: Shapiro argues Trump can win on policy but risks defeat if he keeps feeding a chaos narrative. For listeners, the key takeaway is that immigration, abortion policy, and economic messaging matter more than viral feuds.

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