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Fed Is Easing Into Major Regime Shift | Darius Dale

This week we discuss the Federal Reserve’s upcoming interest rate decision, the path to the neutral rate, and why the Fed should front-load its rate cuts. Darius and Felix also delve into why the recessionistas are wrong about the labor market, the fiscal impulse, the impact of the BOJ and China on

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Executive Summary: Darius Dale argues the Fed is beginning a rate-cutting normalization cycle, not a recessionary easing cycle. He expects U.S. growth to stay resilient, inflation to bottom and reaccelerate absent recession, and asset markets to favor risk assets over bonds and the dollar. He also sees fiscal impulse, labor-market hoarding, Japan normalization, and China weakness as key cross-currents shaping the next 6–12 months.

Main Topics: Fed cuts as policy normalization, not recession response (Priority: 5/5): The discussion centers on whether tomorrow's FOMC cut is the start of a soft-landing normalization cycle or a recessionary easing cycle. Dale argues it is primarily normalization toward neutral, not stimulus below neutral. U.S. growth resilience and late-cycle expansion (Priority: 5/5): Dale maintains his long-standing view that U.S. growth will keep surprising consensus to the upside, extending the cycle and supporting equities, credit, and crypto despite late-cycle indicators. Inflation bottoming and likely reacceleration (Priority: 5/5): He argues inflation is near its cyclical low and, based on historical business-cycle patterns and leading indicators like PPI and shelter, will likely stop falling and move higher unless recession occurs. Labor market remains robust despite slack (Priority: 4/5): Dale pushes back on recession warnings, saying income growth is strong, labor hoarding persists, layoffs are not accelerating meaningfully, and unemployment is rising more from supply normalization than collapse in demand. Fiscal dominance and renewed impulse (Priority: 4/5): The fiscal stance has swung sharply more expansionary, which Dale says should support growth, labor demand, and inflation persistence over the coming quarters. Global central banks, yen carry trade, and cross-border flows (Priority: 4/5): He links Fed easing and Bank of Japan normalization to carry-trade risk, but says the main determinant is U.S. growth. A U.S. recession would trigger large global capital unwind risk. China slowdown and weak policy response (Priority: 3/5): China’s property slump and muted stimulus remain a drag on commodities and global growth, though a weaker dollar and Fed cuts could ease pressure on Beijing to stimulate more aggressively.

Key Arguments: The Fed is cutting into a late-cycle expansion, which is consistent with policy normalization rather than recessionary crisis easing. Markets are not fully pricing a recession; they are pricing a path to neutral faster than the Fed expects, not a deep easing cycle below neutral. Inflation is historically the most lagging indicator; it usually does not fall durably below trend without a recession. Core PPI, core CPI, and core PCE are likely to bottom at levels inconsistent with 2% inflation, supporting Dale's view that inflation will recycle higher. The labor market is moderating but still healthy: income growth is above trend, layoffs are not surging, and firms continue to hoard labor due to skill shortages and strong profits. Fiscal impulse has turned sharply positive, which should reinforce economic resilience and make inflation stickier. The greatest risk to global assets is not a 25 vs 50 bp cut, but a U.S. recession that would force a major unwind of global carry trades and foreign capital into U.S. assets. Japan’s policy normalization may be underpriced, but its market impact depends heavily on whether the U.S. soft landing holds. China remains structurally weak, with property deflation and limited stimulus, but a softer dollar and Fed easing could help stabilize conditions. Dale’s portfolio approach is systematic and regime-based: he emphasizes following confirmed trends rather than forecasting every macro turn.

Data Points: FOMC meeting timing: about 24 hours away from the interview - The conversation is framed around the imminent Fed decision and first expected cut of the cycle. Late-cycle unemployment rate: 4.2% - Used as evidence that the U.S. economy is still late cycle and not in recession. Latest dot plot neutral rate: around 2.75% - June dot plot estimate referenced as the Fed's longer-run neutral policy-rate guidance. Fed funds futures vs dot plot cuts by end-2024: 4 cuts priced vs 1 in the June dot plot - Shows markets expect a faster path to neutral than the Fed. Fed funds futures vs dot plot cuts by end-2025: 10 cuts priced vs 5 in the June dot plot - Illustrates the market-Fed gap on pace, not terminal destination. Median recession rate cuts: around 400 bps - Historical median Fed easing in post-war U.S. recessions. Median cuts in monetary-policy-driven recessions: 475 bps - Historical benchmark used to argue current pricing is not recessionary enough. Current market-implied easing: about 250 bps - Dale says this is roughly half of a typical recessionary cut cycle. Private sector labor income: 5.3% three-month annualized; 4.3% year-over-year - Presented as evidence of robust consumer income and labor-market strength. Labor supply growth: +709K YoY in August vs +3.7M in November - Shows labor-supply growth has slowed markedly over time. Bank of Japan wage growth: 3.6% YoY nominal wages; 3.0% YoY scheduled earnings - Used to argue Japan is more likely to continue policy normalization. U.S. net international investment position: - $20T in Dec. 2023 vs - $10T in 2018 - Indicates large foreign ownership of U.S. assets and potential unwind risk. China building sales: -24% YTD - Evidence of severe property-market weakness. China new building supply: -10% YTD - Shows slowing construction and property-market contraction. China nationwide home prices: -5% YoY - Used to support the view that China property is deflating sharply. China existing home prices: -8% - Described as the deepest contraction seen in the series. China private and financial sector debt to GDP: 200% - Compared to Japan-style structural debt-deflation risk. U.S. private/non-financial debt on bank balance sheets: 33% - Supports the argument that most U.S. borrowing is market-financed rather than bank-financed. Lower-third household share of consumer spending: 15% - Used to illustrate the U.S. 'have vs have-not' economy. Upper-third household share of consumer spending: 51% - Shows spending is concentrated among high-income households. KISS backtest average annual return: +16% - Out-of-sample portfolio performance cited versus traditional 60/40. 60/40 average annual return: +10% - Benchmark used to compare the KISS strategy. KISS max drawdown: -12% - Backtest drawdown cited as superior risk control. 60/40 max drawdown: -22% - Comparison benchmark; occurred twice in the backtest period. Unmanaged 60/30/10 with BTC max drawdown: -26% - Shows benefit of risk overlays in KISS. VAM signal upside capture in stocks: 96% - Systematic trend signal performance cited for equities. VAM signal upside capture in Bitcoin: 98% - Systematic trend signal performance cited for Bitcoin. Market regime now-casting upside capture in stocks: 97% - Used to show strong participation in equity uptrends. Market regime now-casting upside capture in Bitcoin: 109% - Claimed to outperform Bitcoin at trading itself.

Pivotal Quotes: "I think that you have to start the conversation with like a 30,000 foot view on actually what is happening in the economy" — Darius Dale: Opening framework for interpreting the FOMC decision and asset-market implications. "Normalization means that they intend to take the policy rate to neutral. They don't want to create easing in the economy." — Darius Dale: Defines the key distinction between rate cuts as normalization versus outright stimulus. "If you're going to anticipate a trending risk off market regime... you need to experience one of three things" — Darius Dale: Explains the conditions required for sustained risk-off markets: sharp growth slowdown, inflation surge, or tighter policy.

Implications: Listeners should interpret upcoming Fed cuts as supportive of risk assets unless growth sharply deteriorates. Dale’s base case favors stocks, credit, crypto, and a weaker dollar, while bonds likely have less upside. The main threat is a recession that could trigger global capital unwinds.

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