Episode Summary
Executive Summary: Alex Gurevich explains Honte’s long-term, non-flashy investment philosophy and walks through how his macro fund navigated March 2020’s extraordinary market dislocation. He details why liquidity, funding, and Fed policy—not just economic fundamentals—drove asset prices, how his book documents the crisis trade-by-trade, and why he currently sees a late-cycle setup with caution on beta, a still-bearish view on risk assets, and a more constructive view on the dollar.
Main Topics: Honte Investments and long-term investing philosophy (Priority: 5/5): Gurevich defines Honte as a Go term meaning deliberate movement toward victory over time, reflecting a disciplined, client-aligned approach focused on long-run capital growth rather than short-term performance. Why March 2020 mattered and why he wrote the book (Priority: 5/5): He says March 2020 was uniquely important because the pandemic affected markets and personal life simultaneously, creating a rare first-hand record of decision-making under extreme uncertainty that he wanted to document faithfully. Macro positioning entering the pandemic (Priority: 5/5): He discusses being long rates: owning Eurodollar call options, Fed funds futures, and bonds based on his view that the Fed was near the end of its hiking cycle and rates would move toward zero. Liquidity crisis and market dysfunction (Priority: 5/5): The key turning point was not just recession fear but a shortage of cash and balance-sheet capacity, which broke normal price relationships, strained repo/funding markets, and caused even safe assets to sell off. Portfolio adaptation during the crisis (Priority: 4/5): As the crisis evolved, he gradually rotated from crisis-benefiting rates trades into beta and recovery-linked assets such as oil, dividend futures, and other risk assets, aiming to position for the return of liquidity. Fed response, inflation, and current macro outlook (Priority: 4/5): He argues the Fed ultimately supplies unlimited liquidity when dollars are scarce, sees policy as having changed the post-pandemic regime, and remains wary of beta while leaning long dollar and expecting eventual easing after a late-cycle hiking phase.
Key Arguments: March 2020 was not just a market event but a societal shock, so documenting it required recording both trading decisions and the emotional environment. The main driver of the crisis was a dollar/funding shortage, which distorted even high-quality collateral markets and made normally safe assets vulnerable. Eurodollar options and Fed funds futures were attractive because the market mispriced the scale and speed of rate cuts; Gurevich believed rates were biased toward zero. He dislikes options structurally because time decay can cause losses even when the macro call is right, preferring trades with less path dependence. The Fed historically tends to stop hiking and then ease relatively soon after, so curve flattening and late-cycle behavior matter more than consensus inflation narratives. When liquidity is withdrawn rather than expanded, risk assets/beta become less attractive; in 2020 the opposite was true, which is why he could pivot into oil and other recovery trades. He thinks historical patterns in rates have strong predictive value for stocks and still sees signs of a late-cycle setup, though he is less certain than in 2018. He views the dollar more constructively now because its behavior no longer fits the earlier weakening-during-hikes pattern. Trading success comes from selecting structures with favorable risk/reward and aligning trades with one’s own style, not from trying to be universally right on every macro forecast.
Data Points: March 2020 significance: One of the most hellish and insane months of all time - Describing the crisis period covered in his book Book title: The Trades of March 2020: A Shield Against Uncertainty - Reference to his recently released book Fed funds target implication: Closer to 100 means zero - Explaining how futures pricing maps to interest rates Late-February market timing: Around February 20 - S&P 500 all-time highs before the crash Major drawdown day: March 9 - Identified as an inflection point when the playbook changed Market move: S&P was down over 7% - Description of the violent market selloff around March 9 Emergency policy action: Early March - Fed had already made an emergency rate cut by then Historical comparison: 2018 - Used as a prior example of late-cycle hiking behavior Historical comparison: 2000 - Referenced internet bust and Fed hiking to 6.5% before easing Oil trade levels: Front-month around $20; deferred around $35; normal central case $60-$65 - Illustrating the importance of contract maturity in futures trading Oil extreme event: Close to negative $40 - Refers to the disastrous nearby crude contract outcome in 2020 Ethereum level: Around $100 - Cited as an example of crypto collapsing during the liquidity crunch Risk asset/funding relationship: Two-year change in the 10-year yield - His recurring historical pattern linking rates and future stock performance
Pivotal Quotes: "Honte in Japanese means to move, which means something which is not flashy, not necessarily accomplishes its goals in the fastest way, but something which gives you the best chances of victory in the long run." — Alex Gurevich: Explaining the name and philosophy of Honte Investments "Every crisis starts from fear and ends with necessity." — Alex Gurevich: His book’s byline and core framework for understanding market dislocation "There are no certainty in markets, only certain likelihoods." — Alex Gurevich: Describing his process for structuring trades and managing uncertainty
Implications: The interview frames March 2020 as a case study in liquidity, funding, and central-bank backstops. For investors, the lesson is to favor durable trade structures, respect market microstructure, and watch rate/funding signals as much as headlines.
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