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How to Believe in Yourself

When was the last time you set a goal and struggled to reach it? Perhaps you're trying to write a novel but can't seem to get started. Or maybe you want to master a sport, but you keep making the same mistakes over and over again. This week, organizational psychologist Adam Grant guides us

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Shankar Vedantam HostAdam Grant Guest

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Episode Summary

Executive Summary: This episode of Hidden Brain explores the psychology of human potential through host Shankar Vedantam's conversation with organizational psychologist Adam Grant. They examine why people often fail to reach their full potential due to perfectionism, seeking expert guidance, and pushing too hard. Grant argues that success is non-linear, requiring detours and backward steps. Through stories of athletes like R.A. Dickey and diver Adam Grant himself, they illustrate that achieving potential involves embracing discomfort, seeking multiple mentors, and focusing on progress over performance.

Main Topics: Myths about reaching potential (Priority: 5/5): Discussion of common but ineffective strategies: perfectionism, expert advice, and grinding through obstacles. How these approaches often backfire. Perfectionism's pitfalls (Priority: 4/5): Three key mistakes: obsessing over tiny details, narrowing growth areas, and ruminating on past mistakes. The importance of harmonious passion over perfection. Getting unstuck (Priority: 4/5): The concept of languishing and how to overcome it. Finding wins in unrelated domains, the sweet spot of procrastination for creativity, and avoiding the 'plunging in bias'. Non-linear nature of success (Priority: 5/5): Success is circular, not linear. Learning requires going backward to go forward (the dips before leaps). Example of typing speed improvement. Multiple mentors (Priority: 3/5): Why having multiple mentors is more effective than one. Different mentors provide different perspectives that can be combined into a personalized map. Resilience as growth (Priority: 3/5): Progress is defined by bouncing back from obstacles, not just reaching peaks. Example of Alison Levine's journey to Everest. Purpose and intrinsic motivation (Priority: 4/5): The power of having a purpose beyond personal achievement. How intrinsic motivation fuels creativity and perseverance.

Key Arguments: Perfectionism stunts growth because it keeps people within their comfort zone and focuses on minor details rather than overall improvement. Expert instructors can be less effective than less expert teachers because experts often forget what it's like to be a beginner (Einstein example). Procrastination has a creative sweet spot—moderate procrastination allows for incubation and better ideas, while too much or too little reduces creativity. Success in complex skills often requires a dip before a leap—getting worse at first as you learn a new method before improving (typing example). Having multiple mentors is more predictive of success than having a single mentor, as different mentors provide diverse guidance that can be synthesized. Detours into unrelated hobbies can build self-efficacy and confidence that transfers back to primary goals (Words with Friends example). Progress should be measured by the ability to return to where you once failed, not just by reaching the final destination (Alison Levine's return to Everest).

Data Points: Typing speed plateau: 30-40 words per minute - Maximum speed with hunt-and-peck typing method Scoreless innings streak: 32 innings - R.A. Dickey's Mets franchise record in 2012 Age at Cy Young Award: 37 years old - R.A. Dickey won the Cy Young Award at age 37 Years in minor leagues: 14 years - R.A. Dickey spent 14 years in the minor leagues before major success Distance from Everest summit when turned back: 300 feet - Alison Levine was less than 300 feet from the summit when forced to turn back due to a storm Number of expert mentors predicting partner promotion: 2-3 - Lawyers with 2-3 mentors were more likely to become partners than those with one or none (Higgins study)

Pivotal Quotes: "Make it feel wrong. I don't want to make it feel wrong. I'm trying to do it right. He's like, 'Yeah, but if you always do it in a way that feels right, then you're going to undercorrect. You're not going to make a big enough change. Make it feel wrong, over-correct, and that's how you get it right.'" — Adam Grant (recounting his diving coach Eric Best): Advice on how to make significant improvements by embracing discomfort "I think that so many people when they look to an expert guide or a mentor, they think they're gonna get a set of directions. But you can't follow somebody else's map because no one is starting from the same place that you are." — Adam Grant: On why seeking a compass rather than a map is more effective for growth "Progress is actually reflected in the fact that she was able to get back on the mountain and get right back to the place where she had to turn around." — Adam Grant: On how resilience is a form of growth, using Alison Levine's Everest story

Implications: Listeners should reframe their approach to personal growth: embrace discomfort, seek diverse mentors, allow for detours and incubation time, and measure progress by resilience and recovery rather than linear achievement. These insights apply broadly to career, skill-building, and creative pursuits.

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Why do I feel stuck? How can I become more creative? What can I do to improve my relationships? If you’ve ever asked yourself these questions, you’re not alone. On Hidden Brain, we help you understand your own mind — and the minds of the people around you. (We're routinely rated the #1 science podcast in the United States.) Hosted by veteran science journalist Shankar Vedantam.

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