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Inflation Will Run Hot For The Rest Of The Decade, Says Vincent Deluard

Vincent Deluard, head of global macro at StoneX, has been extremely prescient in calling for persistently high inflation. Vincent returns to Forward Guidance to explain why he thinks that inflation will remain close to the 5-7% range over the next decade, due to inflationary demographics, the revers

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Executive Summary: Vincent Deluard argues inflation is not a temporary 2022 phenomenon but a secular force driven by deglobalization, aging demographics, labor scarcity, and the unwind of decades-long deflationary tailwinds. He expects inflation to settle around 4-7%, higher rates to persist, long-duration assets to struggle, and energy, healthcare, and financials to outperform.

Main Topics: Inflation as a secular regime shift (Priority: 5/5): Deluard argues inflation will remain structurally elevated because the major deflationary forces of the past 30 years are reversing, making 4-7% inflation the new normal rather than a temporary spike. Reversal of deflationary tailwinds (Priority: 5/5): He identifies three past forces behind low inflation—global savings glut, favorable demographics, and cheap migrant labor/China goods—and says each is now reversing, supporting higher prices and wages. Fed policy, 2% target, and financial repression (Priority: 5/5): He questions the sacredness of the 2% inflation target, argues it is politically chosen rather than economically ordained, and expects the Fed to eventually accept a higher inflation regime while appearing hawkish. Equities and the case for lower multiples (Priority: 4/5): Deluard expects the S&P 500 to fall meaningfully as higher discount rates and weaker earnings compress valuation multiples, with inflation and rates keeping pressure on long-duration growth stocks. Sector rotation: Holy Trinity portfolio (Priority: 5/5): He promotes a portfolio of energy, healthcare, and financials as a practical inflation hedge with strong valuation, yield, and resilience across inflation, recession, and rate-hike scenarios. Treasury market and duration risk (Priority: 4/5): He sees long-duration government bonds as vulnerable in a secular inflation world, citing the UK gilt crisis and broader sovereign-bond stress as signs the selloff could continue. Gold, Brazil, and commodity-linked opportunities (Priority: 3/5): He is constructive on gold as a hedge and especially bullish on Brazil as a beneficiary of commodities, high real rates, and potential future easing relative to global tightening.

Key Arguments: The main inflation drivers are not solved; supply-chain disruptions, China constraints, war effects, and geopolitical fragmentation still persist. Past disinflation came from cheaper capital, cheaper labor, and cheap goods; those forces are now reversing, making inflation more durable. Demographics are inflationary once large cohorts move beyond peak saving into retirement, because production falls while consumption and healthcare demand rise. A recession may happen, but it will likely be unusual and not enough to return inflation to 2%; inflation may only ease to around 4-5%. The 2% target is a relatively recent, politically adopted convention without deep economic foundations and can be adjusted if needed. Inflation between roughly 4% and 8% can coexist with strong growth and may help rebalance wealth from capital owners to workers. Higher inflation and rates should compress equity valuations, especially for long-duration growth stocks; earnings are also likely to weaken as costs rise. Energy, healthcare, and financials are positioned to outperform because they hedge the dominant macro risks: inflation, recession, and higher rates. Treasuries are poor hedges in an inflationary regime; commodities become the better diversifier for 60/40 portfolios. A higher-inflation environment may be painful for financial markets but socially beneficial by improving wage growth and broadening asset access for younger workers.

Data Points: Peak inflation: 9.1% - He said U.S. inflation likely peaked at 9.1% for this cycle. Expected inflation floor: 4% to 4.5% - He argued inflation likely falls no lower than around 4%, then stays elevated. Preferred inflation band: 5% to 7% - He repeatedly framed this as a plausible and even useful steady-state inflation range. Inflation-growth study: 3.8% average real growth - He cited his analysis showing real growth is stronger when inflation is 4%-10%. Inflation-growth comparison: 3.1% average real growth - He contrasted this with lower real growth when inflation is 1%-3%. S&P 500 target: 3,000 - His downside target implies roughly a 20%-30% decline from the interview period. Estimated EPS change: -7% - He expects earnings to decline next year based on rates, commodities, spreads, and dollar strength. Household net worth increase: $40 trillion - He used the post-2020 wealth surge to argue consumers still have balance-sheet support. Great Depression / Great Recession wealth loss: $8 trillion - He contrasted this with the recent $40T gain to argue the household balance sheet remains strong. Minimum-wage cost of one S&P 500 share: 4 days in 1982 vs 4 months today - He used this to illustrate how financial assets have become far less accessible to workers. Energy valuation: ~6x earnings - He described U.S. energy stocks as cheap relative to history and other sectors. Financials valuation: ~9x to 10x earnings - He cited bank valuations as attractive in his Holy Trinity portfolio. Healthcare valuation: ~15x earnings - He said healthcare is more expensive than energy/financials but still reasonable versus tech. Holy Trinity performance: +6% YTD - He said his energy-healthcare-financials portfolio was up despite a down market. S&P 500 performance: -20% - He referenced the broad market decline over the year to that point. Japan/Germany current account: Deficits in 2022 - He cited this as evidence the old global savings glut is fading. Boomer cohort milestone: Born 1946-1965; midpoint around 1955-1956 - He used boomer aging to explain the shift from peak saving to retirement spending. Mexican migration: About 10 million migrants in the 1990s - He framed this as a major deflationary labor shock that is no longer repeating.

Pivotal Quotes: "Inflation is actually the solution. It is the medicine that the global economy needs: inflation and financial repression." — Vincent Deluard: His core thesis on why higher inflation can rebalance debts, wages, and asset ownership. "The 2% target, it was bullshit all along. We made it up anyway." — Vincent Deluard: His blunt critique of the Fed’s inflation target as arbitrary and adjustable. "If you don't lose your job, you're fine." — Vincent Deluard: His argument that the labor market and household balance sheets remain strong enough to prevent a deep consumer recession.

Implications: Investors should expect persistent inflation, higher real-asset and commodity sensitivity, and ongoing pressure on bonds and growth stocks. Sector rotation toward energy, healthcare, and financials may outperform broad passive allocations.

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