The Memo by Howard Marks
The Memo by Howard Marks

Lessons from Silicon Valley Bank

Howard Marks's Memo "Lessons from Silicon Valley Bank"

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Executive Summary: Howard Marks argues SVB was a special-case failure caused by concentration, long-duration bonds, and a classic deposit run—yet the larger takeaway is tighter credit, more fear, and increased scrutiny for banks, CRE lenders, startups, and markets. He sees limited evidence of a 2008-style systemic crisis, but significant knock-on effects from psychology, regulation, and commercial real estate stress.

Main Topics: Why SVB Failed (Priority: 5/5): SVB’s concentrated client base, oversized bond portfolio, long maturities, unrealized losses from rising rates, and rapid digital deposit run made it uniquely vulnerable. Banking’s Structural Risks (Priority: 5/5): Marks explains that banks inherently combine short-term, withdrawable liabilities with long-term assets, high leverage, and trust dependence, making them fragile in stress periods. SVB vs. 2008 Financial Crisis (Priority: 4/5): He argues the SVB episode is not comparable to the GFC because it lacked the massive subprime-mortgage excess and systemic interconnection that drove 2008. Regulation, Moral Hazard, and Bailouts (Priority: 4/5): The memo discusses post-GFC regulation, the relaxation of bank rules in 2018, deposit guarantees, and the moral hazard created by government backstops. AT1 Bonds and Credit Suisse (Priority: 3/5): Marks uses Credit Suisse’s AT1 wipeout to illustrate how contingent capital works and why investors should not assume debt-like protection when instruments are designed to absorb losses. Psychological Contagion and Credit Tightening (Priority: 5/5): Even without direct systemic links, fear can spread across markets, causing lenders to pull back and borrowers—especially startups and regional real estate markets—to face tighter financing. Commercial Real Estate Risk (Priority: 5/5): He flags CRE, especially office properties, as a major looming stress point because of higher rates, refinancing needs, weaker occupancy assumptions, and concentrated exposure at smaller banks.

Key Arguments: SVB was unusual rather than representative: its sector and regional concentration, deposit composition, and securities positioning made it far more fragile than most banks. The core banking problem is a structural asset-liability mismatch: deposits can flee instantly while loans and bonds are long-dated and hard to liquidate without losses. High leverage means even modest asset declines can wipe out bank equity, especially when coupled with a run on deposits. Trust is essential to banking; once confidence breaks, liquidity can vanish faster than management can respond. SVB’s bond-buying decision looks like a flawed yield chase given the very low starting yields and the obvious risk from rising rates. The 2023 bank failures do not resemble the GFC because they were not driven by a systemwide collapse in asset quality comparable to subprime mortgages. Government support can stop panic, but it also creates moral hazard by encouraging risk-taking if investors expect rescue. AT1 securities are designed to behave like debt for investors but like equity for regulators; investors who ignored the write-down language were taking explicit risk. The real danger from SVB is not direct contagion from one bank’s failure, but broader credit tightening and fear-driven pullback by lenders. Commercial real estate may be the most important follow-on risk because refinancing pressure and bank exposure could amplify losses and restrict lending.

Data Points: SVB deposits growth: $62 billion to $189 billion - Deposits tripled from end-2019 to end-2021 as startup cash flooded in. SVB securities purchases: $91 billion - Amount invested in Treasury bonds and U.S. government agency mortgage-backed securities during 2020-2021. SVB investments as share of assets: roughly 50% - Bond and MBS holdings were about half of total assets, versus about one quarter at an average bank. Market value decline in SVB bond holdings: $21 billion - Loss in value after the Fed’s rate hikes drove bond prices down. Uninsured deposits at SVB: 94% above $250,000 - Deposits were largely institutional and not fully FDIC-insured. Single-day deposit outflow: more than one-third - SVB lost over a third of deposits in one day after rumors spread online. UK/US historical bank comparison: Northern Rock, 2007 - Marks recounts a personal near-run on a bank and compares it to the speed of SVB withdrawals. Second biggest bank failure: SVB was 2/3 the size of Washington Mutual - He pushes back on media framing that SVB was the biggest failure since the GFC. Washington Mutual assets: $307 billion - Used as a size comparison for the 2008 era versus SVB’s $209 billion. SVB assets: $209 billion - Current size referenced in comparing bank failure scale. 2021 U.S. FDIC-insured banks: 4,236 - Used to illustrate how fragmented U.S. banking is compared with other countries. U.S. banks per $1 trillion GDP: 212 - Marks compares the U.S. banking count with Canada’s far lower bank density. Canada domestic banks: 34 - Example of a system with fewer banks but functioning adequately. Canada banks per $1 trillion GDP: 17 - Illustrates contrast in banking concentration. CRE mortgages outstanding: $4.5 trillion - Estimated total commercial real estate mortgage market in the U.S. Bank share of CRE mortgages: about 40% - Approximate share held by banks. Bank CRE exposure: around $1.8 trillion - Estimated face value of banks’ CRE loan exposure. Average bank asset exposure to CRE: 8-9% - CRE loans as a percentage of average bank assets. Bank of America CRE exposure large banks: 4.5% - Average CRE loan exposure at banks with more than $250 billion in assets. Bank of America CRE exposure smaller banks: 11.4% - Average CRE loan exposure at banks with less than $250 billion in assets. Total bank equity capital: $2.2 trillion - Used to show banks’ limited capital buffer relative to CRE exposure. Risk-based capital / CRE loans, large banks: 50% - BofA estimate for large banks. Risk-based capital / CRE loans, smaller banks: 167% - BofA estimate showing heavier CRE concentration at smaller banks. AT1 wipeout amount: $17 billion - Credit Suisse AT1s were written down to zero in the UBS rescue. AT1 issuance example: $2 billion - Example U.S. dollar AT1 issuance from Credit Suisse in 2018. AT1 coupon example: 7.5% - Illustrative yield on Credit Suisse’s perpetual Tier 1 contingent write-down capital notes. Regulatory threshold pre-2018: $50 billion - Banks above this asset level faced the strictest post-GFC standards. Regulatory threshold after 2018: $250 billion - Threshold raised, easing regulation for many regional banks including SVB. Trigger for AT1 write-down: CET1 below 7% - Matt Levine’s explanation of how the AT1 capital trigger works. U.S. total bank assets: exceed $23 trillion - Used in the commercial real estate risk discussion.

Pivotal Quotes: "the significance of the failure of SVB and Signature Bank is less that it portends additional bank failures, and more that it may amplify pre-existing wariness among investors and lenders" — Howard Marks: Core thesis on the broader impact of SVB. "There's no source of meltdown in any sector as potentially toxic as the combination of high leverage and an asset liability mismatch." — Howard Marks: Explanation of why banking is structurally fragile. "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself." — Franklin D. Roosevelt: Marks cites FDR to describe how fear can spread through financial markets and intensify crises.

Implications: Listeners should expect tighter credit, greater bank scrutiny, and more stress in CRE and startup financing. Marks sees limited systemic contagion risk, but warns that fear and liquidity pressure can still damage weaker institutions and sectors.

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About The Memo by Howard Marks

On October 12, 1990, Oaktree Co-Chairman Howard Marks published his first memo to clients. In the decades since, he has periodically released memos reflecting his viewpoint on the investment landscape, as well as more general business insights. On this podcast we'll hear the latest memos by Howard, released in tandem with or shortly after their publication.

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