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MacroVoices #349 Rory Johnston: Crude Oil Outlook & SPR Discourse

MacroVoices welcomes Commodity Context founder Rory Johnston as this week’s feature interview guest to take a deep dive on crude oil supply and demand fundamentals, China reopening, Russian sanctions, and finally the long-awaited Strategic Petroleum Reserve discourse so many of you have requested. h

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Hedge Fund Manager Erik Townsend ([email protected]) HostEric Townsend GuestRory Johnston Guest

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Executive Summary: Macro Voices episode 349 centers on a deep dive into the crude oil market amid tightening supply, China reopening speculation, Russian sanctions, and SPR policy. Eric Townsend and Rory Johnston largely agree the oil market is structurally bullish, but differ on how quickly supply can respond and how the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve should be used, with the post-game segment reinforcing a near-term bearish-to-volatile setup for crude, equities, and the dollar.

Main Topics: Structural bullish case for crude oil (Priority: 5/5): Townsend argues the world cannot return to pre-pandemic normal because energy supply is insufficient; Johnston largely agrees on a multi-year bullish supply-demand setup, but stresses that the market is still transitioning out of the shale-growth era and supply responses take time. U.S. shale growth limits and supply-chain bottlenecks (Priority: 5/5): Johnston explains that shale can still grow, but likely at a much slower pace than in 2014-2018 due to investor discipline, labor shortages, pressure-pumping constraints, and supply-chain bottlenecks in steel, frack sand, and oilfield services. China reopening and inventory rebuilding (Priority: 5/5): Both speakers view China as the key demand catalyst. Townsend argues reopening will trigger an energy crisis; Johnston says timing remains unclear and that China may be building inventories and its strategic reserve ahead of eventual reopening. Russian sanctions, logistics, and price-cap skepticism (Priority: 4/5): The discussion covers the EU embargo, insurance/shipping restrictions, and the proposed price cap. Johnston views the policy as theoretically interesting but poorly executed, likely causing short-term friction and logistics headaches more than a permanent loss of barrels. Strategic Petroleum Reserve purpose and execution (Priority: 5/5): Townsend frames the SPR as a national-security asset meant to guard against wartime energy coercion, while Johnston supports a more market-stabilizing role in theory but criticizes the Biden administration’s timing, inflexibility, and failure to hedge/refill effectively. Cross-asset market reaction: equities, dollar, gold, and yields (Priority: 4/5): In the post-game, the team ties lower-than-expected CPI and election-related uncertainty to a bounce in stocks, a softer dollar, stronger gold, and possible Treasury yield declines, while warning the final market bottom is likely not in.

Key Arguments: Oil supply is structurally constrained; even without Russia-related disruptions, spare capacity is limited and new supply growth requires higher prices for longer. U.S. shale is not dead, but its growth rate has likely halved versus the pre-pandemic era because the easy capital and best drilling inventory are gone. Guyana, Brazil, and Canada are important non-OPEC growth sources, but none can offset the loss of U.S. shale’s former pace of growth in the near term. China reopening is the most important demand-side catalyst; the exact timing matters enormously because even a few quarters of delay change the balance materially. China may already be restocking strategic and commercial inventories in anticipation of reopening, which could tighten the physical market before demand fully returns. The EU/Russia sanctions package is likely bullish in the near term, but the real-world effect may be smaller than headlines suggest because crude can be rerouted and shadow logistics will emerge. The SPR should be managed more like a strategic asset with rules tied to market conditions; the administration’s one-time release was too rigid and its refill plan lacks credibility. Refilling the SPR with the wrong crude quality could reduce its usefulness in a true security crisis because U.S. shale oil is too light for optimal blending into middle distillates. The market’s near-term direction hinges on whether China reopening rumors turn into concrete policy; absent that, crude could remain volatile and technically weaker. For broader markets, a weaker dollar and cooler inflation can spark a countertrend rally, but neither speaker believes the bear market’s ultimate bottom is necessarily in place.

Data Points: Episode number: 349 - Macro Voices episode identifier Production date: November 10, 2022 - Episode production timing EIA crude inventory build: 3.9 million barrels - Weekly crude inventory headline number discussed Underlying crude build ex-SPR: less than 400,000 barrels - Build after excluding Strategic Petroleum Reserve release SPR release in inventory data: 3.6 million barrels - Amount drawn from the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve Cushing crude draw: 923,000 barrels - Oklahoma storage hub inventory change Gasoline draw: 899,000 barrels - Weekly gasoline inventory change Distillates draw: 521,000 barrels - Weekly distillate inventory change U.S. production: 12.1 million barrels per day - Weekly U.S. crude production level U.S. production change: +200,000 barrels per day - Week-over-week production increase China demand gap vs pre-COVID peak: about 2 million barrels per day - Estimated shortfall in Chinese consumption under lockdown policy U.S. shale growth in 2018: about 2 million barrels per day - Approximate annual growth cited for U.S. total liquids production Expected U.S. shale growth now: 500,000 to 1 million barrels per day - Johnston’s estimate of more sustainable growth pace Guyana first oil: December 2019 - Start of offshore production in Guyana Guyana current nameplate capacity: about 360,000 barrels per day - Capacity of the Lisa Phase 1 and 2 projects Guyana annual incremental growth: about 200,000 barrels per day - Expected average yearly addition over the next half decade Guyana medium-term production increase: about 1 million barrels per day over five years - Projected growth from early-2022 base Guyana government take estimate: $150 billion USD (to 2040) - Expected fiscal windfall to the Guyanese state OPEC/Saudi spare capacity: about 1 million barrels per day beyond current production - Townsend’s framing of Saudi spare capacity limits EU embargo date on Russian seaborne crude: December 5, 2022 - Start date for the EU oil embargo SPR release size: 180 million barrels - Scale of the U.S. SPR drawdown program discussed Peak SPR release pace: just over 1.2 million barrels per day - Maximum daily release pace during the drawdown China reopening rumors: March 2023 target discussed - Reported timeline in market rumor/committee story Goldman Sachs observation: China may already be restocking its SPR - Research note referenced in the discussion VIX level: around 23.72 - Spot volatility index during the post-game discussion SPX spot level: about 3,860 - Index level discussed after CPI release SPX expected move for November 11 options expiry: about 60 points in either direction - Implied daily move quoted by the hosts Crude technical support/resistance: $90-$95 area - Zone of repeated highs in the second half of the year WTI levels to confirm reversal: close above 88.50 and preferably 89.25 - Eric’s technical trigger for a trend reversal Gold resistance levels: 1723, 1735, 1750 - Moving-average and prior-high levels cited during chart review 10-year yield threshold: below 4.0% with possible move to 3.5%-3.75% - Yield levels discussed as potential support for risk assets

Pivotal Quotes: "the world is unable to return to pre-pandemic normal in terms of the overall global economy for the simple reason that we don't have enough energy supply" — Eric Townsend: Eric states his core thesis at the start of the interview with Rory Johnston "I think you have the kind of broad contours wrong" — Rory Johnston: Johnston responds to Townsend’s thesis, largely agreeing on tight supply but emphasizing cycle timing and market transition "I think that the price cap is not a terrible idea, but ... the execution is kind of where this is going to be made" — Rory Johnston: Johnston critiques the Russia price-cap policy as theoretically interesting but poorly implemented

Implications: Listeners should expect crude to remain structurally tight but highly event-driven, with China reopening, Russian logistics, and SPR policy as major catalysts. The broader message: energy scarcity, not just pricing, may shape macro conditions through 2023 and beyond.

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