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MacroVoices #356 Justin Huhn: Investing in All Thing Nuclear

MacroVoices Erik Townsend welcomes Uranium Insider newsletter editor Justin Huhn to the show to discuss the overall investment argument for nuclear energy and understanding the nuclear fuel cycle and how to invest in it and much more. https://bit.ly/3VvHsYn Download chartbook: https://bit.ly/3Q0FoGk

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Executive Summary: Macro Voices’ year-end special argues nuclear is entering a multi-year bull market driven by a tightening uranium fuel cycle, reduced Western access to Russian conversion/enrichment, utility restocking, and growing support for nuclear as clean baseload power. Justin Huhn emphasizes uranium miners and physical uranium as the most investable ways to play the theme, while Eric Townsend outlines a staged strategy that starts with physical exposure and later shifts toward miners and SMR/advanced nuclear opportunities.

Main Topics: Why nuclear is investable now (Priority: 5/5): Justin explains that nuclear has been a poor investment historically because of negative public sentiment, but the sector is improving as utilities return to contracting, supply/demand tightens, and governments begin re-embracing nuclear as clean energy. Global energy policy and the Germany example (Priority: 5/5): The discussion uses Germany’s nuclear phaseout and heavy reliance on intermittent renewables as a cautionary example of how shutting baseload nuclear has increased costs, emissions, and industrial strain. Uranium market tightness and the contracting cycle (Priority: 5/5): A major investment thesis is that utilities are entering a new multi-year long-term contracting cycle after years of underbuying, which should force higher uranium prices and benefit miners. Bifurcation of the fuel cycle with Russia (Priority: 5/5): Russia’s role in conversion and enrichment is becoming more constrained for the West, creating bottlenecks that may require more uranium feedstock and thus indirectly benefit miners more than enrichers. Ways to invest: physical uranium, miners, ETFs, and fuel-cycle plays (Priority: 4/5): The speakers compare exposure through physical uranium vehicles (SPUT, YCA), uranium miners, ETFs like URNM, and selective fuel-cycle companies such as Cameco, Centrus, and Silex. Advanced nuclear and SMRs (Priority: 4/5): The conversation covers the promise of small modular reactors, high-assay low-enriched uranium, and next-gen designs, but stresses that most advanced technologies are still early-stage and largely private. Sequencing the trade and risk management (Priority: 4/5): Eric proposes a staged investing approach: buy physical uranium first, wait for broader equity market weakness before adding miners and more speculative SMR names, and watch oil prices as a catalyst for a broader nuclear renaissance.

Key Arguments: Nuclear’s public image remains poor, but fundamentals are improving due to tight supply, rising utility contracting, and policy support in the West. Germany’s nuclear phaseout and renewable buildout show that replacing baseload nuclear with intermittent sources without sufficient storage can raise costs and emissions. The current market is in the first year of a multi-year uranium term-contracting cycle, with 112 million pounds contracted long-term already—still below replacement demand. Loss of Russian enrichment/conversion access matters because Western enrichers are at limited capacity, forcing higher tails assays and more uranium feed demand. Higher tails assays in future contracts can materially increase uranium demand even before enrichment capacity is expanded. Physical uranium is the cleanest and lowest-risk way to express the bullish view because spot supply is thin and vehicles like SPUT can directly absorb pounds from the market. Miners offer more leverage later in the cycle, but physical uranium may be safer during broader equity volatility. Advanced nuclear/SMR investing is promising but still highly speculative; near-term investable exposure is limited, and much of the space is private or pre-commercial. Cameco is positioned as a key Western bellwether because it spans mining, conversion, and a major stake in Westinghouse. Eric’s view is that nuclear’s real breakout may come later, after an energy crisis and policy shift, but the uranium trade is already underway. Data Points: Justin Huhn newsletter performance since inception: 359% - Eric cites the Uranium Insider stock recommendations’ return since August 2019. Peak newsletter performance mentioned: 450% - Eric notes that performance had at one point reached this level before pulling back with the market. Germany’s operating reactors after phaseout: 3 reactors - Justin says Germany had shut down most of its fleet and had three remaining reactors online, later extended to April. Global nuclear energy return on investment (EROI): 7 to 10 to 1 minimum needed; nuclear described as highest EROI - Justin argues modern societies need high-EROI energy and that nuclear is especially favorable. Solar/buffered solar EROI: less than 2 to 1 - Used to contrast intermittent renewables with nuclear’s energy density and reliability. Current reactors under construction globally: 60 reactors / 58 GW - Justin cites global construction activity as evidence nuclear is a growth sector. Planned reactors globally: 112 reactors / 120 GW - Part of the World Nuclear Association-style supply/demand growth picture. Proposed reactors globally: 324 reactors - Shows the breadth of future nuclear buildout. China reactors under construction: 22 reactors - China is highlighted as a major long-term driver of global nuclear expansion. China nuclear target by 2035: 200 GW - Justin says China aims to roughly quadruple capacity over the next 13 years. Global annual uranium consumption: 175 to 180 million pounds per year - Used as the benchmark for replacement-rate term contracting demand. Long-term contracting in 2022: 112 million pounds - Justin says this is the highest since 2012 but still not replacement rate. Western enrichment capacity: approximately 27 million SWU - Justin explains limited Western enrichment capacity relative to demand. Cost to expand enrichment capacity: about $1.5 billion per 1 million SWU - Shows why capacity expansions are slow and capital-intensive. Western share of global enrichment capacity: about 40% - Used alongside 70% of demand being in the West to explain the bottleneck. Current spot Sprott Physical Uranium Trust discount to NAV: about 10% discount - Justin uses this to argue the trust’s downside is limited relative to upside. Lowest historical discount for SPUT: about 17% discount to NAV - Illustrates that current pricing is not far from prior extreme lows. SPUT supply squeeze example: 10 million pounds purchased in just over a month - Justin cites this as proof that financial flows can materially move the spot market. SPUT price impact example: spot uranium moved from low $30s to mid-$50s - The trust’s buying reportedly helped trigger a sharp spot price rally. France-fry analogy / enrichment tails example: 0.2 tails to 0.3 tails can mean 20%+ more uranium demand - Eric and Justin discuss how higher tails assays force more uranium feedstock purchases. Underfeeding as secondary supply: about 25 million pounds/year globally - Justin says this secondary source is disappearing as the cycle tightens. Western underfeeding contribution: about 10 million pounds/year - Part of the secondary supply no longer reaching the market. Japan reactor restarts: 10 reactors restarted - Justin uses Japan as evidence that even post-Fukushima countries are re-embracing nuclear. Diablo Canyon extension: 5-year extension referenced - Eric notes existing plant life extensions create immediate uranium demand. NewScale funding status: first and only publicly traded pure-play SMR company - Presented as the only public equity pure-play in SMRs at the time. X-energy public listing timing: expected to go public next year - Justin mentions X-energy planning an IPO via SPAC or public transaction. TerraPower Natrium delay: up to 2 years - Fuel availability/HALU constraints are slowing the project. Private newsletter pricing: $597/year or $197/3 months - Justin describes Uranium Insider subscription options.

Pivotal Quotes: "“This is year one of a long-term contracting cycle.”" — Justin Huhn: Core thesis for why uranium prices and miners may benefit over multiple years. "“The uranium miners will be the biggest beneficiary.”" — Justin Huhn: Explains why tighter Western enrichment and higher tails assays should increase uranium feed demand. "“I want to be part of this trend and I don’t want to risk missing it.”" — Eric Townsend: Eric explains why he is already building positions despite expecting broader market weakness.

Implications: Listeners should see uranium as a real, but staged, opportunity: physical uranium first, miners later, and SMRs/advanced nuclear as longer-dated optionality. The broader nuclear renaissance may take years, but fuel-cycle tightness is already creating investable signals.

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