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MacroVoices #386 Lyn Alden: Energy, Inflation & much more

MacroVoices Erik Townsend and Patrick Ceresna welcome Lyn Alden to the show to take a deep dive on energy, everything from crude oil to natural gas to shale depletion rates. And finally, uranium before moving on to talk in depth about inflation. https://bit.ly/3OyuKaI Download Lyn’s Charts: https://

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Hedge Fund Manager Erik Townsend ([email protected]) HostLynn Alden Guest

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Executive Summary: Macro Voices 386 features Lynn Alden arguing that markets are increasingly bifurcated: a narrow AI/mega-cap rally sits beside deeply undervalued cyclicals, especially energy, commodities, and some healthcare. She sees AI as real but overhyped in valuation terms, expects persistent energy tightness from shale depletion and underinvestment, and believes inflation risks remain elevated because supply-side constraints and fiscal deficits haven’t been fixed.

Main Topics: AI enthusiasm and mega-cap valuation divergence (Priority: 5/5): Alden and the hosts discuss the concentrated rally in AI-related equities, contrasting expensive leaders like NVIDIA and Apple with neglected value and defensive names. AI is viewed as transformative, but current pricing reflects little margin of safety. Energy as an under-owned long-term theme (Priority: 5/5): Alden argues the energy complex remains structurally under-owned after years of underinvestment, even after the post-Ukraine oil spike. She sees favorable supply-demand dynamics over a 3-5 year horizon. Shale depletion and future U.S. production limits (Priority: 5/5): The conversation emphasizes that shale is faster to bring online but depletes faster, and the U.S. rig count peak may foreshadow a future production peak. This weakens the idea that shale can keep offsetting global declines indefinitely. Natural gas arbitrage and LNG convergence (Priority: 4/5): They discuss the long U.S. gas / short Europe gas convergence idea, driven by growing LNG export capacity. Alden frames it as a multi-year structural theme rather than a near-term trade. Uranium and the case for nuclear energy (Priority: 4/5): Alden remains long uranium as a structural trade because current supply is insufficient relative to demand, secondary inventory is opaque, and a broader nuclear revival could emerge from energy scarcity. Copper, battery metals, and electrification (Priority: 4/5): Copper is presented as the cleanest way to express the electrification theme, while battery metals are viewed as more fad-prone. Demand for grid upgrades and electrification supports a bullish long-term case. Inflation persistence and portfolio construction (Priority: 5/5): Alden argues inflation may reappear in waves because energy and fiscal drivers remain unresolved. Her portfolio approach combines profitable equities, commodities/hard assets, and cash/T-bills for recession resilience.

Key Arguments: AI is real and economically meaningful, but the market has already priced in much of the upside in leading names, leaving little margin of safety. The current stock market rally is narrow; expensive tech is surging while many value and defensive sectors remain left behind. Energy remains structurally under-owned because companies and investors acted conservatively after the last price spike, limiting reinvestment and keeping supply tight. U.S. shale is not a permanent fix: it can grow quickly, but depletion and reduced capex imply future production may stall or peak. Natural gas price convergence between the U.S. and overseas markets should continue over time as LNG export infrastructure expands. Uranium is attractive because global consumption exceeds current production, forcing reliance on secondary supply and supporting higher prices over time. Copper is the best long-term electrification trade because it is ubiquitous across power grids, EVs, and infrastructure upgrades. Inflation is likely to come in waves, not a one-and-done spike, because the core drivers—energy tightness and fiscal deficits—remain in place. The Fed can slow the economy, but if inflation is driven by fiscal and supply constraints rather than bank lending, rate hikes may be less effective than markets assume. A practical portfolio in this environment should blend profitable equities, commodity/hard-asset exposure, and short-duration cash equivalents. Data Points: Macro Voices episode: 386 - Episode number for the July 27, 2023 show Production date: July 27, 2023 - Episode production date SP 500 futures weekly change: down 30 bps to 4595 - Macro scoreboard recap U.S. Dollar Index weekly change: up 75 bps to 101.03 - Macro scoreboard recap WTI crude (Sep) weekly change: up 464 bps to 78.78 - Macro scoreboard recap Gold weekly change: down 55 bps to 1970 - Macro scoreboard recap Copper weekly change: up 236 bps to 3.90 - Macro scoreboard recap Uranium weekly change: up 45 bps to 56.10 - Macro scoreboard recap U.S. 10-year Treasury yield: 3.87% - Macro scoreboard recap WTI inventory change: drawdown of 600,000 barrels - EIA inventory discussion Cushing crude inventory change: down 2.6 million barrels - EIA inventory discussion Gasoline inventory change: down 786,000 barrels - EIA inventory discussion Distillates inventory change: down 245,000 barrels - EIA inventory discussion U.S. oil production: 12.2 million barrels/day - EIA inventory discussion Crude resistance level: $80 - Technical analysis on crude oil Crude 55-week moving average: $79.97 - Technical analysis on crude oil Crude breakout zone / 200-day continuation MA: about $77 - Technical analysis on crude oil S&P 500 implied move into Aug. 18 OPEX: 100 points - Options-market discussion S&P 500 call wall: 4,600 - Options positioning S&P 500 put wall / support: 4,500 - Options positioning QQQ implied move into Aug. 18 OPEX: ±13 points - Options positioning QQQ call wall: 400 - Options positioning VIX: around 13 - Volatility discussion Gold round-number resistance: $2,000 - Technical analysis on gold Sprout Physical Uranium Trust resistance: $17.50-$18 - Technical analysis on uranium SPRT/Uranium upside target mentioned: $20 - Technical analysis on uranium Average debt duration example: 20 years - Enterprise Products Partners example from Alden Oil production history example: U.S. production from 5 million to 13 million barrels/day - Peak oil and shale discussion Energy usage decline years globally: 5 years in the past 50-60 years - Alden’s historical energy-demand argument Rising inflation risk horizon: 2024-2025 - Alden’s outlook for a possible next inflation wave

Pivotal Quotes: "AI is real, it's here, it's impactful, it's going to change how we interact with things in the next several years." — Lynn Alden: Her view on generative AI as a real but often overhyped technology theme "Energy is another one of those areas... it's an area where, even during the big price spike of oil last year, a lot of the equities never really got over excited about it." — Lynn Alden: Why she remains constructive on energy despite recent price moves "Until we see an energy capex cycle, I would be concerned about further rounds of inflation." — Lynn Alden: Her core inflation framework linking persistent inflation to energy underinvestment

Implications: Listeners should expect continued leadership from a narrow set of expensive tech names unless breadth improves, while energy, uranium, copper, and select hard assets may offer better risk-reward over a multi-year horizon. Inflation risks likely persist, so portfolios may need more commodities and liquidity than classic 60/40 allocations.

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