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MacroVoices #538 Lyn Alden: Is The War Really Over and What’s Next For Markets?

MacroVoices Erik Townsend & Patrick Ceresna welcome, Lyn Alden. They discuss the Hormuz crisis, Fed policy under new leadership, budget deficits, the AI trade, and AI's mounting demands on energy markets. https://bit.ly/4oJoM7q 🔻Download Big Picture Trading Chartbook 📈📉: https://bit.ly/3R2Y

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Executive Summary: Macro Voices centers on Lynn Alden’s view that the Hormuz crisis is easing but unresolved details could keep headlines volatile. She argues the Fed is likely in a gradual-print, mildly hawkish phase, the dollar’s breakout reflects rate-hike repricing, deficits remain structurally high, stablecoins add incremental Treasury demand but not a cure, and AI can keep levitating markets longer while creating eventual bubble risk and major power-demand constraints.

Main Topics: Hormuz crisis status and oil response (Priority: 5/5): Alden says the immediate worst-case oil disruption appears to be passing, but the memorandum of understanding still leaves major unresolved issues around uranium, inspections, enforcement, and funding. Oil’s selloff reflects market relief, though renewed disruptions could reprice crude higher again. Fed posture under new leadership (Priority: 5/5): The discussion frames the new Fed chair as more hawkish than many expected, with policy shaped by prior energy-driven inflation and a desire to maintain credibility. Alden expects a gradual balance-sheet expansion/liquidity-support path rather than dramatic QE. Dollar breakout and macro repricing (Priority: 4/5): The dollar’s move higher is attributed mainly to shifting expectations for rate hikes and still-active AI-driven capital flows into U.S. assets. Alden thinks the dollar may remain choppy but warns a sustained rise could pressure both foreign and U.S. growth. Persistent deficits and fiscal dominance (Priority: 5/5): Alden argues deficits are likely to stay structurally large because fiscal policy is supporting nominal growth and asset prices. She sees debt expansion as a long-running force behind a K-shaped economy, asset inflation, and political dissatisfaction rather than an immediate funding crisis. Stablecoins and Treasury demand (Priority: 4/5): Stablecoins are presented as a growing, dollar-supportive network effect that can add Treasury demand and strengthen dollar usage, especially in cross-border payments. But Alden emphasizes they are a helpful marginal buyer, not a magical fix for U.S. debt or deficits. AI boom, valuation risk, and energy constraints (Priority: 5/5): Alden believes the AI capex cycle still has legs, with strong fundamentals in some chip names, but valuations are increasingly stretched and a future bust is likely. She highlights power, data-center buildout, and nuclear/natural gas as the real bottlenecks shaping the sector. Trade of the week: natural gas exposure (Priority: 4/5): Patrick links Lynn’s energy-demand thesis to a long natural gas idea, arguing natural gas is a practical bridge fuel for AI and data-center electricity needs. He prefers longer-dated structures over front-month ETF exposure due to roll yield and contango risk.

Key Arguments: The Iran/Hormuz situation is improving, but the deal is incomplete and could remain headline-sensitive for weeks or months because enforcement and uranium/inspection details are unresolved. Oil is near pre-crisis levels because the market is pricing out geopolitical risk; if the Strait re-closes or attacks resume, crude can quickly reprice higher. The Fed is likely to sound hawkish while still remaining liquidity-supportive; Alden expects gradual balance-sheet accommodation rather than a dramatic new QE cycle. The dollar rally reflects repriced hike odds and ongoing U.S. capital inflows; it may not be a clean safety trade and could eventually weaken U.S. growth if it persists. U.S. deficits are likely to remain elevated because fiscal spending and nominal GDP growth are reinforcing each other; this supports asset prices and entrenches a two-speed economy. Stablecoins can increase dollar and Treasury demand, especially for cross-border commerce, but even a very large expansion would only partially offset U.S. deficit financing needs. AI is likely to keep benefiting capex winners for longer than skeptics expect, but valuations are becoming dangerous and a broader market correction/bubble unwind is plausible. The real AI bottleneck is energy, not just semiconductors; natural gas and nuclear are the key infrastructure themes, and countries with stronger power systems have an advantage. China is better positioned than many regions because of its industrial and power infrastructure, while the U.S. still has advantages in talent and business environment. SpaceX-style orbital data centers are viewed as interesting but not economically compelling on a 5-10 year investable horizon due to launch, maintenance, and engineering challenges.

Data Points: WTI crude move: down about 885 basis points to $69.28 - Patrick summarized weekly market moves and the post-crisis oil repricing Dollar index move: up 210 basis points to 101.54 - Patrick noted a technically significant breakout above a 15-month range Gold decline: down roughly 900 basis points back toward 4,000 - Patrick described continued selling in gold after the FOMC period WTI 200-day moving average: 69.92 - Eric cited the August WTI chart during the oil discussion Egypt energy curfew timing: April, lifted in May - Alden referenced temporary energy curfews due to gas stress in Egypt Fiscal deficit target cited by Treasury: 4% of GDP by end of administration - Alden said she would take the over and expects deficits to stay higher Stablecoin market cap: about $300 billion - Alden described stablecoins as having grown from tens of billions to hundreds of billions Stablecoin market cap in early 2021: about $30 billion - Alden referenced her prior bullish view when the market was much smaller Potential stablecoin market cap by 2030: trillion-plus base case, about $3 trillion bull case - Alden cited Citi-style scenario analysis and Treasury Secretary reference Illustrative Treasury demand from stablecoin growth: $500 billion to $1 trillion - Alden used this to show stablecoins are material but not enough to solve deficits Tesla price-to-sales multiple: about 14x - Used as an example of narrative-driven valuation persistence Toyota price-to-sales multiple: about 0.7x - Used as a comparison to Tesla in the discussion of narrative vs fundamentals SpaceX valuation multiple: 100+ times price/sales - Alden and Eric discussed market appetite and the plausibility of orbit-based data centers Anthropic/OpenAI/SpaceX aggregate value: almost $3 trillion - Eric framed this as an unprecedented amount of AI-related value to be absorbed by markets Natural gas contract referenced: December 2026 futures - Patrick highlighted a longer-dated futures expression for the energy thesis

Pivotal Quotes: "I think we're past the worst part of this." — Lynn Alden: Her view on the Hormuz/Iran conflict as a near-term market risk "I'm fading kind of these narratives that there's like a really big QE around the corner." — Lynn Alden: Her Fed/balance-sheet outlook favors gradual liquidity support over dramatic easing "It can continue longer than people think." — Lynn Alden: Her assessment of the AI capex/valuation cycle and market leadership

Implications: Listeners should expect continued volatility in oil, the dollar, and AI-linked equities, but not necessarily immediate regime change. The bigger medium-term themes are persistent fiscal dominance, higher power demand, and stablecoin/dollar network effects.

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